Politics

[Tdansmith 3259]

Return of the sausages 🤣

[spongebob toonpants 3995]

[Tdansmith 3259]

13 hours ago, spongebob toonpants said:

[Gemmill 44851]

 

Some well needed balance and common sense. 

 

[Alex 35077]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

 

Some well needed balance and common sense. 

 

Nicely sums up pretty much everything that’s wrong with the media in relation to politics in this country. I do think Labour have made a few PR gaffes and have failed to communicate the reasons behind their decision making on a few occasions. But they’re inexperienced and look what they’re going up against 

[RobinRobin 11263]

🙂 

[Dr Gloom 21915]

20 hours ago, RobinRobin said:

🙂

 

shame Ed was never brave enough to show he had a personality when he was leader. he's been class since he stepped down

[Alex 35077]

To be fair to him, he was/is a fairly moderate social democrat who was eviscerated for the way he ate a bacon sandwich and was portrayed by most of the media as being just to the left of Leon Trotsky. Being yourself is probably difficult against that backdrop and he inherited the leadership at bad time too

[Christmas Tree 4725]

[Dr Gloom 21915]

4 hours ago, Alex said:

To be fair to him, he was/is a fairly moderate social democrat who was eviscerated for the way he ate a bacon sandwich and was portrayed by most of the media as being just to the left of Leon Trotsky. Being yourself is probably difficult against that backdrop and he inherited the leadership at bad time too

agree but I  wonder if he’d done better if he’d just been himself. He’s a likeable bloke. Voters like that in a leader. Shame it was coached out of him

[Renton 21606]

1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said:

agree but I  wonder if he’d done better if he’d just been himself. He’s a likeable bloke. Voters like that in a leader. Shame it was coached out of him

 

Think that's naive for reasons Alex has already said. 

Also, he kind of did knife his brother in the back which contradicts Mr Nice guy somewhat and was quite the sliding doors moment imo. 

[Dr Gloom 21915]

1 hour ago, Renton said:

 

Think that's naive for reasons Alex has already said. 

Also, he kind of did knife his brother in the back which contradicts Mr Nice guy somewhat and was quite the sliding doors moment imo. 

 

it's naive to be likeable? feels like it could be a winning strategy instead of having you're entire personality coached out of you.

 

of course the media were out to get him with the bacon sandwich nonsense but unlike a lot of politicians, ed has come across as a warm and funny bloke since stepping down as leader. and if you're lucky enough to blessed with a personality, why not show it? i think the public see through bland, overly-coached politicians and would have warmed to ed more if he'd just been himself. 

Edited September 27 by Dr Gloom

[Renton 21606]

5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

it's naive to be likeable?

Naive to think the media would ever let him be shown as likable. He was likable mind, I met him a couple of times before he betrayed his brother. Never revealed any ambitions to be leader just two years prior to that.  

[Renton 21606]

BadEnoch says yesterday that statutory maternity pay is paid by tax payers and has "gone too far".

She then rows back on it, claiming the interviewer made her say it.

Nicky Campbell on R5 accepts this version of reality. Pure gaslighting.

 

I really hope she gets the gig as she will say something disastrous every week. She is usueless with journalists, who she obviously despises. 

[Craig 6682]

I get the point being made, but the suggestion he betrayed / knife his brother in the back is a bit much. 

He was proposed and seconded by sitting Labour MPs and was democratically elected as leader by the party membership. IIRC the trade unions were massively in support of Ed which probably was the difference. 

I was surprised David didn't get it, but it was always going to be something of a busted flush - the new leader of a party who have just come out of over a decade of government is likely to be transitional. Foot & Hague were the same and the new Tory leader will likely be the same. 

[Renton 21606]

24 minutes ago, Craig said:

I get the point being made, but the suggestion he betrayed / knife his brother in the back is a bit much. 

He was proposed and seconded by sitting Labour MPs and was democratically elected as leader by the party membership. IIRC the trade unions were massively in support of Ed which probably was the difference. 

I was surprised David didn't get it, but it was always going to be something of a busted flush - the new leader of a party who have just come out of over a decade of government is likely to be transitional. Foot & Hague were the same and the new Tory leader will likely be the same. 

 

I think it caused their family a lot of persona problems. I'm not accepting the Hague or Foot similarities either. Both of these were fighting opposition majorities, a huge majority in the case of Hague. Foot was also clearly unelectable. Miliband was fighting  a minority government in coalition. I think his brother would have won it as he was just a better more polished politician. But Ed blew it and ultimately paved the way for Corbyn, Brexit, Johnson, and Truss etc. Of course I'm not putting all the blame on him for this sequence of events and I personally like him, but that decsion to compete with his brother was a ruinous sliding door moment in the history of this country imo. 

[Renton 21606]

Holy shit these candidates really are batshit.

 

[Gemmill 44851]

Nice hoodie mate.

 

[ewerk 30598]

[Dazzler 9742]

11 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Aye, down to his political views and absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he's proven himself to be less than useless at quite literally everything. Probably best we don't hire teachers that are thicker than whale spunk to educate our kids tbh.

[ewerk 30598]

Aye, it says something about the people of Stoke that they saw fit to elect a man to represent them and make our laws who can’t even get a job as a teacher in an industry crying out for them.

[Howmanheyman 33166]

It might be stating the obvious but how can you enforce good, respectful behaviour from pupils when a quick Google would give you all the evidence you need that he's incapable of that himself?

Edited September 30 by Howmanheyman

[ewerk 30598]

After the election he said that he didn’t want to return to teaching and wanted to help rebuild the Tories i.e. a cushy number in party HQ and even they don’t want him.

[Dazzler 9742]

Gullis: No one will give me a job teaching because of my political views.

 

Head teacher: We won’t employ you because you keep locking brown children in dog crates, and you misspelled Jonathan Gullis on your CV.

[Sonatine 11374]