Tdansmith 3043 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Return of the sausages 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3880 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3043 Posted Wednesday at 09:38 Share Posted Wednesday at 09:38 13 hours ago, spongebob toonpants said: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43034 Posted Wednesday at 10:49 Share Posted Wednesday at 10:49 Some well needed balance and common sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34220 Posted Wednesday at 12:08 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:08 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Some well needed balance and common sense. Nicely sums up pretty much everything that’s wrong with the media in relation to politics in this country. I do think Labour have made a few PR gaffes and have failed to communicate the reasons behind their decision making on a few occasions. But they’re inexperienced and look what they’re going up against 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10782 Posted Thursday at 11:21 Share Posted Thursday at 11:21 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21460 Posted Friday at 08:09 Share Posted Friday at 08:09 20 hours ago, RobinRobin said: 🙂 shame Ed was never brave enough to show he had a personality when he was leader. he's been class since he stepped down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34220 Posted Friday at 08:16 Share Posted Friday at 08:16 To be fair to him, he was/is a fairly moderate social democrat who was eviscerated for the way he ate a bacon sandwich and was portrayed by most of the media as being just to the left of Leon Trotsky. Being yourself is probably difficult against that backdrop and he inherited the leadership at bad time too 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Gloom 21460 Posted Friday at 12:53 Share Posted Friday at 12:53 4 hours ago, Alex said: To be fair to him, he was/is a fairly moderate social democrat who was eviscerated for the way he ate a bacon sandwich and was portrayed by most of the media as being just to the left of Leon Trotsky. Being yourself is probably difficult against that backdrop and he inherited the leadership at bad time too agree but I wonder if he’d done better if he’d just been himself. He’s a likeable bloke. Voters like that in a leader. Shame it was coached out of him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20548 Posted Friday at 14:08 Share Posted Friday at 14:08 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: agree but I wonder if he’d done better if he’d just been himself. He’s a likeable bloke. Voters like that in a leader. Shame it was coached out of him Think that's naive for reasons Alex has already said. Also, he kind of did knife his brother in the back which contradicts Mr Nice guy somewhat and was quite the sliding doors moment imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21460 Posted Friday at 15:03 Share Posted Friday at 15:03 (edited) 1 hour ago, Renton said: Think that's naive for reasons Alex has already said. Also, he kind of did knife his brother in the back which contradicts Mr Nice guy somewhat and was quite the sliding doors moment imo. it's naive to be likeable? feels like it could be a winning strategy instead of having you're entire personality coached out of you. of course the media were out to get him with the bacon sandwich nonsense but unlike a lot of politicians, ed has come across as a warm and funny bloke since stepping down as leader. and if you're lucky enough to blessed with a personality, why not show it? i think the public see through bland, overly-coached politicians and would have warmed to ed more if he'd just been himself. Edited Friday at 15:46 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20548 Posted Friday at 15:10 Share Posted Friday at 15:10 5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: it's naive to be likeable? Naive to think the media would ever let him be shown as likable. He was likable mind, I met him a couple of times before he betrayed his brother. Never revealed any ambitions to be leader just two years prior to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20548 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago BadEnoch says yesterday that statutory maternity pay is paid by tax payers and has "gone too far". She then rows back on it, claiming the interviewer made her say it. Nicky Campbell on R5 accepts this version of reality. Pure gaslighting. I really hope she gets the gig as she will say something disastrous every week. She is usueless with journalists, who she obviously despises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6595 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago I get the point being made, but the suggestion he betrayed / knife his brother in the back is a bit much. He was proposed and seconded by sitting Labour MPs and was democratically elected as leader by the party membership. IIRC the trade unions were massively in support of Ed which probably was the difference. I was surprised David didn't get it, but it was always going to be something of a busted flush - the new leader of a party who have just come out of over a decade of government is likely to be transitional. Foot & Hague were the same and the new Tory leader will likely be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20548 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Craig said: I get the point being made, but the suggestion he betrayed / knife his brother in the back is a bit much. He was proposed and seconded by sitting Labour MPs and was democratically elected as leader by the party membership. IIRC the trade unions were massively in support of Ed which probably was the difference. I was surprised David didn't get it, but it was always going to be something of a busted flush - the new leader of a party who have just come out of over a decade of government is likely to be transitional. Foot & Hague were the same and the new Tory leader will likely be the same. I think it caused their family a lot of persona problems. I'm not accepting the Hague or Foot similarities either. Both of these were fighting opposition majorities, a huge majority in the case of Hague. Foot was also clearly unelectable. Miliband was fighting a minority government in coalition. I think his brother would have won it as he was just a better more polished politician. But Ed blew it and ultimately paved the way for Corbyn, Brexit, Johnson, and Truss etc. Of course I'm not putting all the blame on him for this sequence of events and I personally like him, but that decsion to compete with his brother was a ruinous sliding door moment in the history of this country imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20548 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Holy shit these candidates really are batshit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43034 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Nice hoodie mate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dazzler 8694 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 11 minutes ago, ewerk said: Aye, down to his political views and absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he's proven himself to be less than useless at quite literally everything. Probably best we don't hire teachers that are thicker than whale spunk to educate our kids tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29644 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Aye, it says something about the people of Stoke that they saw fit to elect a man to represent them and make our laws who can’t even get a job as a teacher in an industry crying out for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 31945 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago (edited) It might be stating the obvious but how can you enforce good, respectful behaviour from pupils when a quick Google would give you all the evidence you need that he's incapable of that himself? Edited 14 hours ago by Howmanheyman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29644 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago After the election he said that he didn’t want to return to teaching and wanted to help rebuild the Tories i.e. a cushy number in party HQ and even they don’t want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 8694 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Gullis: No one will give me a job teaching because of my political views. Head teacher: We won’t employ you because you keep locking brown children in dog crates, and you misspelled Jonathan Gullis on your CV. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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