Renton 21621 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Bridget on C4 right now. 3000 new or expanded nurseries, using the private school tax and the cons pledges already made (and reneged on). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 I do love a bit of Gullis heckling. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11263 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 13 hours ago, Gemmill said: Thankfully, this is what most people think of Farage. He doesn't have a future in mainstream politics beyond playing the spoiler. Which tbf, he does very well, but there's a ceiling on the popularity of any party for which he's a leading figure. Hopefully, he will fuck Reform after he has done for the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Tory manifesto to be published today amidst rumours there could be a more right wing ‘rebel’ one published if this one doesn’t land with the voters. With the latter involving a pledge to leave the ECHR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 27 minutes ago, Alex said: Tory manifesto to be published today amidst rumours there could be a more right wing ‘rebel’ one published if this one doesn’t land with the voters. With the latter involving a pledge to leave the ECHR Jenrick and Braverman to hold a press conference to release it as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Sunak's manifesto is DEFINITELY not gonna move the polls btw, so we should hopefully be treated to this at the start of next week, if not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) Apparently there are "frank exchanges" after Brand goes after Sunak on his wealth and unrelatability. Which basically means Sunak being a squeaky little bitch. Should be good. Edited June 11 by Gemmill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 So he cut short his time at the D-Day commemoration event to do a damaging interview? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33182 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 12 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Jenrick and Braverman to hold a press conference to release it as well. The air of self importance around the likes of Braverman will be delicious when it's taken away. The likes of jenrick are just on the take to see how they and theirs can profit. I can't wait to see the back of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 33 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: The air of self importance around the likes of Braverman will be delicious when it's taken away. The likes of jenrick are just on the take to see how they and theirs can profit. I can't wait to see the back of them. Braverman is in one of the few safe seats. But I think the annoyance of being pretty much an irrelevance will reveal just how unhinged she actually is. Same with Badenoch (who is even worse). Part of the reason they’re going to struggle to make up ground any time soon, unless labour has an absolute nightmare, is because what’s left of the decimated parliamentary party is going to be the loons. They’ll continue their failed culture wars because they don’t have anything else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 8 minutes ago, Alex said: Braverman is in one of the few safe seats. But I think the annoyance of being pretty much an irrelevance will reveal just how unhinged she actually is. Same with Badenoch (who is even worse). Part of the reason they’re going to struggle to make up ground any time soon, unless labour has an absolute nightmare, is because what’s left of the decimated parliamentary party is going to be the loons. They’ll continue their failed culture wars because they don’t have anything else. Aye. Also Braverman loves Farage whilst Badenoch hates him. Difficult to see what will rise from the ashes of the COnservative party but first we have to reduce it to ashes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 You would assume that any Tory candidate launching an alternative manifesto would have to be kicked out of the party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ewerk said: You would assume that any Tory candidate launching an alternative manifesto would have to be kicked out of the party? Have you not noticed Sunak has no spine at all? It is another line Labour has not needed, but the truth is, if by some miracle Sunak was re-elected, he would not be PM by Christmas. Vote Sunak, get *some random nutter*. Just struck me there pondering Braverman and Badenoch as candidates. It's fucking weird the leadership for this far right frankly racist anti-immigration party are both women of colour and second generation immigrants (also Sunak himself). I can't see them lasting too long before the inevitable. Edited June 11 by Renton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33182 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 16 minutes ago, Alex said: Braverman is in one of the few safe seats. But I think the annoyance of being pretty much an irrelevance will reveal just how unhinged she actually is. Same with Badenoch (who is even worse). Part of the reason they’re going to struggle to make up ground any time soon, unless labour has an absolute nightmare, is because what’s left of the decimated parliamentary party is going to be the loons. They’ll continue their failed culture wars because they don’t have anything else. Just being a backbencher in a vastly reduced Tory party in opposition will be good enough for now. Like so many of the current lot, it was almost laughable seeing her in cabinet and talking shite to interviewers until it wasn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33182 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 minute ago, Renton said: Have you not noticed Sunak has no spine at all? It is another line Labour has not needed, but the truth is, if by some miracle Sunak was re-elected, he would not be PM by Christmas. Vote Sunak, get *some random nutter*. Just struck me there pondering Braverman and Badenoch as candidates. It's fucking weird the leadership for this far right frankly racist anti-immigration party are both women of colour and second generation immigrants (also Sunak himself). I can't see them lasting too long before the inevitable. Hitler was Austrian, Napoleon was born in Corsica. Trying too hard to fit in methinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 10 minutes ago, ewerk said: You would assume that any Tory candidate launching an alternative manifesto would have to be kicked out of the party? I think it’s a power play to get more right wing madness (like leaving the ECHR) into the actual one. Probably just to position themselves as the next leader after the election. I can’t see how they could conceivably launch an alternative one. It would take a ridiculously poor campaign to new depths. As Renton alludes to, these sorts of moves from a party in government, in an actual election campaign, just highlight what a lame duck the pm is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 The Guardian has published some graphical data on immigration. When you look at this one (legal immigration, >95% of it), you can see the effect of Brexit clearly. Net decline in Europeans now, "expats" forcibly returning (often older people who need the NHS), and an exponential climb in non-Europeans, mainly from India and Nigeria iirc. I'm gald all Brexiters are getting exactly what they wanted. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 5 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: Hitler was Austrian, Napoleon was born in Corsica. Trying too hard to fit in methinks? products of their upbringing and education tbh. Massive fucking snobs who’ve got no interest in poor people of any creed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 minute ago, Renton said: The Guardian has published some graphical data on immigration. When you look at this one (legal immigration, >95% of it), you can see the effect of Brexit clearly. Net decline in Europeans now, "expats" forcibly returning (often older people who need the NHS), and an exponential climb in non-Europeans, mainly from India and Nigeria iirc. I'm gald all Brexiters are getting exactly what they wanted. It’s what they voted for, they need to own it. Because they can’t possibly admit they might’ve been wrong 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 minute ago, Alex said: It’s what they voted for, they need to own it. Because they can’t possibly admit they might’ve been wrong It's mad. With FoM, you had young people from the EU filling gaps in employment and returning home after a few years or on a seasonal basis. Reciprocated with our kids of course. Now we have entire families arriving from different continents on visas, and they are not returning. And of course, lets face it, they are the wrong colour and creed for the average Brexiter. But few will admit they are wrong even now. It's been an utter disaster and nobody can even talk about it now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 So the tories are cutting NI again, funded by cutting disability and sickness benefits, at a time they have ruined the NHS. Standard. Deep breaths. Just over 3 weeks to go until they are gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 The funny thing is, I believe this list was compiled by the Daily Heil. The partial tick is Brexit btw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Thick Ric at it again. Posting a letter from the Cabinet Secretary claiming it proves the £2k thing when actually it doesn't. I know he'll just be hoping that normal people won't bother reading it, but the incompetence and dishonesty of these people is wild. Not to mention their contempt for voters. This bloke shouldn't even be a leading figure in a post-election Tory party with sub 150 seats, never mind one with a decent majority. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Spads aren’t civil servants. As a minister you wouldn’t want them to be because they’re basically consultants who you don’t want to be impartial. Long story, short: The letter proves the exact opposite of what he says / thinks it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 I don't know who they're trying to appeal to with this stuff. Rishi Sunak is...... Top Twat! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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