Gemmill 44539 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44539 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 https://iandunt.substack.com/p/byelection-slaughter-yeah-so-it-turns Dunt on last night is a decent read. Nice intro too: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21404 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Good old Dunty certainly has a way with words. OGWN is not the same without him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44539 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Good to hear that there's some pressure internally to just have the election now before "things get even worse". I don't think it'll make any difference unfortunately, I'm just desperate to get it over with now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34938 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Rees-Mogg thinks the key to success is to just keep doing more of the shit that's set them on the road to electoral oblivion. Yes please. JRM and Sunak hate each other. At this point I think the former is just campaigning for his seat at the next election. Although he looks set to lose that too. And playing to GBeebies twats as well. Actually when I was looking, one the more prominent Tories looking likely to remain in parliament is Truss. Apart from that leading me to assume Norfolk must be stuffed to the gills with absolute cunts. It also made me think she’ll probably make the shadow cabinet. Given her profile and the lack of options. I fucking hope so as she’ll continue to be a disaster. She’s thick as pig’s shit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34938 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Good to hear that there's some pressure internally to just have the election now before "things get even worse". I don't think it'll make any difference unfortunately, I'm just desperate to get it over with now. I think there’s mayoral/local/ police commissioner elections on 9th may. I did wonder if they might just say fuck it and go for them for a GE. Sunak’s like a toxic little drip. Somehow managing to gradually corrode away their support even more with each shitty, insincere sound bite Edited February 16 by Alex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44539 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) ARGH! Get this lot out man. This lad does relatively well at challenging Holden but why do they just let them talk endlessly ffs. This clip is 3 minutes long and easily 90% of it is just Holden not answering the question that's been put to them. I know it's frowned upon but I would absolutely be turning Holden down here and telling him he can either answer the question about CCHQ spreading misinformation, or he can hang up the phone. You can't play by the rules with these people anymore. They don't have rules. Edited February 16 by Gemmill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21404 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Alex said: I think there’s mayoral/local/ police commissioner elections on 9th may. I did wonder if they might just say fuck it and go for them for a GE. Sunak’s like a toxic little drip. Somehow managing to gradually corrode away their support even more which each shitty, insincere sound bite Don't think it's impossible a leadership bid could force his hand into an early GE. I doubt he would lose a VoNC but it massively damages his credibility anyway. In normal circumstances. Which we're clearly not in. I've been saying since Truss, the tories will be annihilated next GE imo. You can see why Starmer is being ultra-cautious, the amount of shit the tories and client media (including BBC) are flinging at him. I expect he will produce a good manifesto though, which will add to Labour's position. I think we are looking at worse than '97 for the tories, possibly reduced to double figures. The best bit is, as you allude to, the ones that will survive the purge are the fruit cakes. So they'll have to choose a fruitcake as their shadow leader. It could be Badenoch, it could even be Truss again. I think their best bet would be Mordaunt, but I'm not sure she'll survive and she is too woke for the headbangers. Edited February 16 by Renton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21404 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, Gemmill said: ARGH! Get this lot out man. This lad does relatively well at challenging Holden but why do they just let them talk endlessly ffs. This clip is 3 minutes long and easily 90% of it is just Holden not answering the question that's been put to them. I know it's frowned upon but I would absolutely be turning Holden down here and telling him he can either answer the question about CCHQ spreading misinformation, or he can hang up the phone. You can't play by the rules with these people anymore. They don't have rules. On the other hand, who cares? Does Holden come across credible here? No, he comes across as a lying cunt. And a boring one to boot. He's not convivning anyone with this ridiculous non-response. The man is only there because his opponent was Pidcock. He's out on his arse this year and into obscurity. Also, it shows just how low the tory party have fallen in terms of quality this prick can become chairman. They're fucked man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44539 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 He won't give a straight answer to whether he's even gonna stand at the GE atm. Their own chairman can't be fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44539 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 In answer to the who cares question though. YOU USUALLY! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34938 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, Gemmill said: He won't give a straight answer to whether he's even gonna stand at the GE atm. Their own chairman can't be fucked. He’s bloody loyal! Ok? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9517 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 30 minutes ago, Gemmill said: ARGH! Get this lot out man. This lad does relatively well at challenging Holden but why do they just let them talk endlessly ffs. This clip is 3 minutes long and easily 90% of it is just Holden not answering the question that's been put to them. I know it's frowned upon but I would absolutely be turning Holden down here and telling him he can either answer the question about CCHQ spreading misinformation, or he can hang up the phone. You can't play by the rules with these people anymore. They don't have rules. I immediately thought of this meme from years ago listening to Holden waffle on there 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11162 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Renton said: I can't wait to see this cunt walk the distance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44539 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 This robot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RobinRobin 11162 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Gemmill said: Rees-Mogg thinks the key to success is to just keep doing more of the shit that's set them on the road to electoral oblivion. Yes please. 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11162 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 5 hours ago, Alex said: Helen Harrison, the Tory party candidate in Wellingborough (who also intends to stand at the general election), is Peter Bone’s partner Who the fuck thought that was a good idea? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11162 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 👍 Edited February 16 by RobinRobin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34938 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, Gemmill said: This robot. Apart from it not showing that, governments pretty much always lose elections. Even in 97 that was the case. Floating voters don’t say to themselves “things are good but the opposition has better policies”. Even the turnout was standard for by-elections. And whilst by-elections are not always great indicators for a general election, we’re well into the final year before another GE. There are literally no positives from a government POV. Also, as you point out, Sunak is just repeating himself at this point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11162 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3860 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 16/02/2024 at 08:19, Renton said: He's a bona fide moron if he thinks he can extrapolate the voting patterns of these country bumpkins nationally. Meanwhile, yes please. How do you project votes in Scotland based on a by election in wellingborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21404 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: How do you project votes in Scotland based on a by election in wellingborough I'm guessing you don't, you just use opinion polls for the Scottish and NI votes. It's just a bit of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34938 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Aye. I think they’ll have used opinion polls, like you say, for the other 3 nations and then extrapolated the by election result / swing for England as a whole. And, as Renton points out, it even says it’s just for fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34938 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) That said, the actual polling by constituency suggests an annihilation (although not on that scale). And btw, that’s on the back of boundary changes that were supposed to help the Tories Edited February 17 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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