RobinRobin 11263 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, ewerk said: 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monkeys Fist 42428 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 She needs to be careful- he’s got a reputation with pigs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11263 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 7 hours ago, Gemmill said: He won't be left with anything, as he won't be the leader. He will just have to console himself with his millions and his wife's billions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) UK officially in recession. How's that growth pledge going Sunak? I've made the point before, but GDP is not the relevant indicator here, GDP per capita is (or should be). That's how the economy impacts on people. If you look at that, apparently we were in recession throughout the entirety of Sunak's tenure. Edited February 15 by Renton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Meanwhile, in some alternative Universe...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 This is quite the take. We're in a recession but not really because other countries have different rules and it's all the junior doctors' fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 6 hours ago, RobinRobin said: He won't be left with anything, as he won't be the leader. He will just have to console himself with his millions and his wife's billions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, ewerk said: This is quite the take. We're in a recession but not really because other countries have different rules and it's all the junior doctors' fault. The BBC are repeatedly referring to it as a "technical recession". What does that mean? It's just a fucking recession, full stop. The BBC were also at paind to point out GDP is a lagging indicator, and we might not be in recession right now! As you say, quite the take. We imported over half a million people ;ast year, mainly workers, and yet our GDP still decreased. That is a huge problem. Edit, James O'Brien just gave the figure of change in GDP per capita since just before covid: UK -1.1% US +6.0% EU +2.7% The response from tories will be but Germany. Think it's true that Germany is doing quite badly right now. This is partly due to Ukraine, and partly because their energy policy is nuts and they have embraced austerity which is also nuts. But before we celebrate, consider that Germany is coming from a much higher base than us. Germany GDP per capita: $53,945 UK GDP per capita: $46,428 I also suspect they don't have the same inequalities as us. Edited February 15 by Renton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 It's just undeniable that the news agenda at the BBC has been corrupted by the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Technically it’s the mildest recession since the 70s 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 10 minutes ago, Alex said: Technically it’s the mildest recession since the 70s Good stuff. It's actually somewhat surprisingly only the 6th recession in modern histroy. 5/6 have come under tory governments. Remind me why people think they are good with the economy again? As well, at least in the old tory days you got a boom before bust. Now it's just 14 years of bust. 1973: -1.3%, Tory government 1980: -3%, Tory government 1990: -1.6% Tory government 2008: -2% Labour government 2020: -22.5% Tory government 2024: -0.4% Tory government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 It’s about conning enough floating voters into thinking they are better off. They’re good at it and the press are largely on side and fptp facilitates it too. AKA our broken democratic system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) It's fucking mental how the press have gone for Starmer over the Rochdale candidate thing over the past couple of days. Compare that to the non-reporting of some of the absolute fiddlers that the Tories have had as MPs who have triggered most of these by elections anyway. Labour are held to an entirely different standard by a lot of the press and the Tories just allowed to skate on loads of stuff. Edited February 15 by Gemmill 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said: It's fucking mental how the press have gone for Starmer over the Rochdale candidate thing over the past couple of days. Compare that to the non-reporting of some of the absolute differs that the Tories have had as MPs who have triggered most of these by elections anyway. Labour are held to an entirely different standard by a lot of the press and the Tories just allowed to skate on loads of stuff. Not just that but a Labour Party IN FUCKING OPPOSITION being held to entirely different standards to a government that’s completely fucked just about everything they’ve touched 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 As expected, Labour gains in both by-elections. Wellingborough in particular was a massacre. As bad a week Starmer has had, Sunak has managed to top him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Tory vote share has collapsed from 62% to 24% in Wellingborough, the biggest collapse in their vote share since WW2. Looking forward to them telling us how there's "no great love for Keir Starmer" as if losing that badly whilst no one likes Starmer is actually a good thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Helen Harrison, the Tory party candidate in Wellingborough (who also intends to stand at the general election), is Peter Bone’s partner Who the fuck thought that was a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Apparently Bone was threatening to stand as an independent and campaign against the Tories if they didn't make her the candidate. So they bottled it and still gave up the second biggest Labour swing ever. I just love watching Sunak suffer. Hoping for plenty of that today and over the weekend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, Gemmill said: Tory vote share has collapsed from 62% to 24% in Wellingborough, the biggest collapse in their vote share since WW2. Looking forward to them telling us how there's "no great love for Keir Starmer" as if losing that badly whilst no one likes Starmer is actually a good thing. According to Mogg, Kingsbury was a bad day for Labour as they didn't get 50%. I can't wait to see this cunt walk the distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, Renton said: According to Mogg, Kingsbury was a bad day for Labour as they didn't get 50%. I can't wait to see this cunt walk the distance. Aye. There in his capacity as a GB news presenter, opining on a constituency, half of which will be folded into his constituency at the next General election. Reeks. Unfortunately he's too wealthy to have to actually worry about anything but I'd just like to see him out of public life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Rees-Mogg thinks the key to success is to just keep doing more of the shit that's set them on the road to electoral oblivion. Yes please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: Rees-Mogg thinks the key to success is to just keep doing more of the shit that's set them on the road to electoral oblivion. Yes please. He's a bona fide moron if he thinks he can extrapolate the voting patterns of these country bumpkins nationally. Meanwhile, yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Rees-Mogg thinks the key to success is to just keep doing more of the shit that's set them on the road to electoral oblivion. Yes please. He's a bona fide moron if he thinks he can extrapolate the voting patterns of these country bumpkins nationally. Meanwhile, yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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