wykikitoon 19991 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 The this is politics episode on the recent happenings sheds light on what is a complex and difficult ingrained situation it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34952 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Hamas knew what the reaction would be if they were successful so it just made me think they don’t give a shit about the fate of the average Palestinian either. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19991 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34952 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, wykikitoon said: Well, she’s a complete fucking cunt and an appalling excuse for a journalist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21868 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alex said: Hamas knew what the reaction would be if they were successful so it just made me think they don’t give a shit about the fate of the average Palestinian either. Of course they don’t. They knew what they did was a declaration of war and how Israel would respond. They also use civilians as cannon fodder, deliberately storing weapons in civilian locations so they can point to the bodies when Israel responds with overwhelming force. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21868 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: The this is politics episode on the recent happenings sheds light on what is a complex and difficult ingrained situation it is. yes, Rory Stewart is excellent at distilling complex stories into succinct five minute explainers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30394 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) Neither side is in the right here. The world has sat back for decades and watched while Israel has taken more and more Palestinian land and seen their living conditions squeezed again and again. But absolutely no one can support the indiscriminate slaughter of innocents by Hamas. Sadly Israel are just going to deliver the same treatment to the Palestinian population. To me a lot of this comes down to the USA’s unwavering support of Israel’s actions which has in turn further emboldened them. Sadly there is no leading country on the international stage willing to call Israel out for what they have done and until there is then nothing will change. Edited October 11, 2023 by ewerk 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34952 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I thought Sarah Silverman made a good point. She said if you have more sympathy for one side than the other (talking about victims) then propaganda has worked on you. Because it’s about de-humanising people if you think one particular group deserves it more than the other. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42191 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Alex said: Sarah Silverman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30394 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 hours ago, ewerk said: To me a lot of this comes down to the USA’s unwavering support of Israel’s actions which has in turn further emboldened them. Sadly there is no leading country on the international stage willing to call Israel out for what they have done and until there is then nothing will change. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44557 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) "Rapists and burglars won't be sent to jail from next week because prisons are full". Story in today's Times, which the Ministry of Justice has refused to deny. Maybe they could operate a one-in, one-out with the Just Stop Oil people who are in there. Edited October 12, 2023 by Gemmill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30394 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 That's a hell of a flip flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34952 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Out of the frying pan… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21438 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 32 minutes ago, ewerk said: That's a hell of a flip flop. The cynic in me thought this may be because the conservatives are best placed to win this seat next time, but that doesn't seem to be the case. She's a clinical psychologist as well, she needs her head examined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44557 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Slightly dents the Vote Labour, get the SNP tory narrative too. It does sound like she's had a shite time of it, but just go independent ffs. Don't join them just as they launch themselves off a cliff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5189 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Why on earth would you join the Tories... I think Renton is spot on, she's a career politician trying to preserve her livelihood. Doesn't change the fact that the SNP have treated her disgracefully of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3860 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Gemmill said: Slightly dents the Vote Labour, get the SNP tory narrative too. It does sound like she's had a shite time of it, but just go independent ffs. Don't join them just as they launch themselves off a cliff. She hasn’t had a bad time at all, she’s an awful person who has always been a Tory. She’s an anti abortionist too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21438 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Aftermath of the conderence season, tories still fucked, Sunak declining. I mean youi'd think they'd be more fucked, but I guess this is their base. Love Truss in the popularity charts, dangling like a flaccid penis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5189 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Reform UK up to 8% is interesting there mind. Almost on par with the LDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19991 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 20% for them cunts is still too high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21438 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Reform UK up to 8% is interesting there mind. Almost on par with the LDs. I'm guessing they might merge with the tories with Farage offered a seat? But this would be a massive blow to any moderates left in the party and many floating voters. Kind of hope it happens tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 How big a cunt would you be to think the tories are still too soppy and vote Reform? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21438 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, NJS said: How big a cunt would you be to think the tories are still too soppy and vote Reform? I'm assuming its the population who know Brexit is failing but blame it on the tories not giving us a "proper" Brexit. The no deal cunts. I never even knew that cunt Habib was their co-leader, sure he isn't normally introduced on QT as such. Edited October 13, 2023 by Renton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9741 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I think the BBC should start calling the present Tories fascists, because you should call a spade a spade. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30394 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 10 hours ago, Isegrim said: I think the BBC should start calling the present Tories fascists, because you should call a spade a spade. This is the man who has held several ministerial roles in recent years yet is incapable of washing a mug. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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