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[Renton 24306]

  On 14/12/2022 at 10:17, The Fish said:

Orrrrr provide a safe, legitimate process for asylum seekers and legal immigration so that there isn't the demand for the highly dangerous illegal routes?

 

Just like arresting the people selling drugs on the streets, snatching up the pilots and dinghies isn't going to do shit. They're easily replaced and while it might temporarily disrupt the route, they'll just move. 

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Read his post again. 

[The Fish 11384]

  On 14/12/2022 at 10:22, Renton said:

 

Read his post again. 

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No.

 

What else you got?

 

[Renton 24306]

  On 14/12/2022 at 10:22, The Fish said:

No.

 

What else you got?

 

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How about

 

[The Fish 11384]

  On 14/12/2022 at 10:24, Renton said:

 

How about

 

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[PaddockLad 19454]

  On 14/12/2022 at 10:17, The Fish said:

Orrrrr provide a safe, legitimate process for asylum seekers and legal immigration so that there isn't the demand for the highly dangerous illegal routes?

 

Just like arresting the people selling drugs on the streets, snatching up the pilots and dinghies isn't going to do shit. They're easily replaced and while it might temporarily disrupt the route, they'll just move. 

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Well I did say this:

 

“Set up safe routes at consulates and embassies where people can apply. “ 

 

By which I meant the same thing as you’ve suggested. 

 

Crushing the smugglers requires will more than anything which I think is missing across most governments in Europe. The situation is fully worse in the Mediterranean. That’s why if there is suddenly a change of heart and governments get together to sort this out it will require a huge cooperative military operation, which is pretty much the only thing that will stop it.  The Royal Marines in landing craft patrolling northern French beaches and arresting at gun point the pilots, they are specifically trained to carry out tasks like this. They do it in the Caribbean to drug couriers .They’ll need to do it every single day. It’ll stop in those areas then move, then the focal point of the operation will move but patrolling the original beaches used will have to continue.
 

No fuckers going to pay for all that though, there’s too many vested interests involved. 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4313]

  On 14/12/2022 at 10:48, PaddockLad said:

Well I did say this:

 

“Set up safe routes at consulates and embassies where people can apply. “ 

 

By which I meant the same thing as you’ve suggested. 

 

Crushing the smugglers requires will more than anything which I think is missing across most governments in Europe. The situation is fully worse in the Mediterranean. That’s why if there is suddenly a change of heart and governments get together to sort this out it will require a huge cooperative military operation, which is pretty much the only thing that will stop it.  The Royal Marines in landing craft patrolling northern French beaches and arresting at gun point the pilots, they are specifically trained to carry out tasks like this. They do it in the Caribbean to drug couriers .They’ll need to do it every single day. It’ll stop in those areas then move, then the focal point of the operation will move but patrolling the original beaches used will have to continue.
 

No fuckers going to pay for all that though, there’s too many vested interests involved. 

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Also British soldiers can't arrest anyone in France.

[ewerk 33798]

  On 14/12/2022 at 10:54, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

Also British soldiers can't arrest anyone in France.

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IT DIDN'T STOP THEM IN 1944, SNOWFLAKE!!!!!!!!!

[PaddockLad 19454]

  On 14/12/2022 at 10:54, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

Also British soldiers can't arrest anyone in France.

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I pointed that out in my original post, and if the operation was under the auspices of a joint operation under the umbrella of the UNHCR then it would be possible. If anyone wants to do it. Which they don’t. 

[Renton 24306]

  On 14/12/2022 at 10:48, PaddockLad said:

Well I did say this:

 

“Set up safe routes at consulates and embassies where people can apply. “ 

 

By which I meant the same thing as you’ve suggested. 

 

Crushing the smugglers requires will more than anything which I think is missing across most governments in Europe. The situation is fully worse in the Mediterranean. That’s why if there is suddenly a change of heart and governments get together to sort this out it will require a huge cooperative military operation, which is pretty much the only thing that will stop it.  The Royal Marines in landing craft patrolling northern French beaches and arresting at gun point the pilots, they are specifically trained to carry out tasks like this. They do it in the Caribbean to drug couriers .They’ll need to do it every single day. It’ll stop in those areas then move, then the focal point of the operation will move but patrolling the original beaches used will have to continue.
 

No fuckers going to pay for all that though, there’s too many vested interests involved. 

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Yep. I'm sure part of the vested interest is that France is hardly incentivised to stop these crossings. But as you say if you can identify the pilot I don't understand why you can't arrest and detain the in the UK and snuff this out. Unless, as I suspect, it not mainly orgainised smugglers but ad hoc chancers. 

 

Anyway, it's been shown that Sunak's plans are illegal under the ECHR so if he wants to implement them he will have to join Belarus in being the only European country that is not a signatory. Oops, sorry, Russia joined that list in 2022. What esteemed company we will keep. The Good Friday Agreement would become void as well so all in all a great time to be alive for the ERG fruitloops. 

[Craig 7125]

Cunt of gargantuan proportions. 

 

 

[Alex 37537]

Still blaming Europe. This is all they’ve got now, isn’t it? People aren’t arsed anyway because they can’t pay their mortgage, go on holiday, go to the cinema/pub/restaurant, feed their kids properly, pay their bills etc. And these cunts still bang on about a problem they’ve made worse and demonise sone of the most vulnerable people imaginable for what exactly? Probably because they’re some of the nastiest cunts going. They’re on a par with the actual people smugglers 

[Toonpack 11953]

  On 14/12/2022 at 11:00, ewerk said:

 

IT DIDN'T STOP THEM IN 1944, SNOWFLAKE!!!!!!!!!

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Depends which version turns up, the 1944 version or the shit 1940 version, they had folks lining up to cross the channel in little boats

[wykikitoon 23575]

[Renton 24306]

  On 14/12/2022 at 12:52, Alex said:

They’re on a par with the actual people smugglers 

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Very well put. 👏

[Renton 24306]

Gullis has just said that the gammons from his constituency (Stoke) are really concerned about people coming over in small boats.  Isn't Stoke one of the most land-locked cities in the UK?

 

It really is Top of the Cunts with this lot. 

 

"Now coming in from number 9 to earn the top spot over Christmas, it's Jonathon Gullis!"

 

 

[ewerk 33798]

I mean that's a perfectly easy way to streamline the entire asylum application process. Just one question, 'yes you can move to the UK but you'll have to live in Stoke, do you wish to continue with your application?'

 

Then watch them queuing for the boats back to France.

[Dr Gloom 24099]

  On 14/12/2022 at 14:22, ewerk said:

I mean that's a perfectly easy way to streamline the entire asylum application process. Just one question, 'yes you can move to the UK but you'll have to live in Sunderland, do you wish to continue with your application?'

 

Then watch them queuing for the boats back to France.

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fyp

[Alex 37537]

Even Gullis’ constituents don’t fucking care. He’s your absolute classic one-term Tory, forever to be an ex-MP, who only got in because of the particular set of circumstances at the last election. The polling gives him next to no chance.  It’s amazing how many of them think the leave vote still gives their views such gravitas. What a prize cunt 

[Craig 7125]

 

[Alex 37537]

Some list that like. Hope they all end up in a leaky dingy 

[PaddockLad 19454]

  On 14/12/2022 at 16:18, Alex said:

Some list that like. Hope they all end up in a leaky dingy 

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One of them has responded , a red wall type who answered in a typically measured manner 

 

 

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[Alex 37537]

  On 14/12/2022 at 20:57, PaddockLad said:

One of them has responded , a red wall type who answered in a typically measured manner 

 

 

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Apart from being a massive prick that reaction is because he knows he will lose his seat at the next election. 

[PaddockLad 19454]

  On 14/12/2022 at 21:12, Alex said:

Apart from being a massive prick that reaction is because he knows he will lose his seat at the next election. 

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Aye that crowd are utterly screwed. That dirty looking minx who holds Bishop Auckland has already jacked I think? 

[Alex 37537]

  On 14/12/2022 at 21:19, PaddockLad said:

Aye that crowd are utterly screwed. That dirty looking minx who holds Bishop Auckland has already jacked I think? 

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Aye. She’s not standing next time round. She’s a cunt but at least she’s got a bit about her. This Benton fella and his ilk are unlikely to be getting any cushy consultancy numbers as the party hierarchy and its donors already consider them to be a bit of a joke. 

[PaddockLad 19454]

  On 14/12/2022 at 21:22, Alex said:

Aye. She’s not standing next time round. She’s a cunt but at least she’s got a bit about her. This Benton fella and his ilk are unlikely to be getting any cushy consultancy numbers as the party hierarchy and its donors already consider them to be a bit of a joke. 

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I heard one, he’s a “let’s celebrate foodbanks” type, and I thought “actually, there is nowhere else on the planet where you’d pull 80k a year you absolute fuckin knobjockey” he was Labour but turned Tory when it was suggested he could win. He might be MP for one of the old coal mining areas near Nottingham iirc….