Toonpack 9429 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Alex said: The Lords has become bloated and packed with Tory cronies but I totally agree it’s not a massive priority. It’s very depressing to see Starmer blow this chance to effect real change Instead of taking the opportunity to absolutely destroy the Tories, I am starting to think he's quite happy to keep them around so they can all simply continue to "play the game", he needs his baddies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Thing is if Corbyn had been opposed to pacts/PR with the worry that a radical programme would be watered down by the lib dems for example it would be understandable. Starmer doesn't have anything to water down - in fact the lib dems might want to do something to the left of them going by the manifestos in the Blair years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 If he doesn't put PR on the manifesto, I'm not voting for them. I've even cross my EU line here, but I'm not crossing that one. PR is the bare minimum for me to vote Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Rayvin said: If he doesn't put PR on the manifesto, I'm not voting for them. I've even cross my EU line here, but I'm not crossing that one. PR is the bare minimum for me to vote Labour. Not sure where you live, but I guess the irony is that it probably doesn't matter, 'cos we don't have PR. I've long argued that PR is much more important than Brexit, EU membership will naturally follow PR once we leave the Belarus system behind us. And apart from anything else, FPtP is just demonstrably not democratic. It's continuence is literally indefensible to any true democrat imo. In any democracy, everybody's vote should count equally. That's clearly not the case. Anyway, I'll dutifully support my local MP like I have for years. I played a small part in getting him elected in '97 after years of tory rule here, something I was proud of at the time. And of course Labour are still by far the lesser evil. But it does massively piss me off and other than tick on a box they can get fucked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Michelle Mone taking leave of absence from the House of Lords. Of course, she's done fuck all wrong .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9429 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Craig said: Michelle Mone taking leave of absence from the House of Lords. Of course, she's done fuck all wrong .... To some sun blessed Isle with no extradition treaty no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4262 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 I would enjoy a go on Michelle Mone tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, strawb said: I would enjoy a go on Michelle Mone tbh That'll be £29bn please 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Hancock stating he's not standing at the next election: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Well this news totally shocks me I can tell you. Odds on he will get a gig as a gameshow host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 bye matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Renton said: Odds on he will get a gig as a gameshow host Maybe, on ITV4+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 It’s quite funny though, that he’s chosen to drop his career based on a fundamental misreading of why he stayed on that show so long- it wasn’t because people liked him, it was that people wanted to see him suffer as much as possible, without actually winning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9778 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 He already did with questioning various results, especially Arizona. On a totally related note German police raided various places today related to right-wing, qanon, russia sympathisieren related conspiracists who wanted to overthrow the government and form a new government. The woman chosen to keep charge of the ministry of justice is a former member of the Bundestag and judge of a civil law court. The disease is spreading rather quickly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35093 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 He’s just pretending he didn’t give up a political career (that was probably finished anyway) for £400k. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Renton said: Well this news totally shocks me I can tell you. Odds on he will get a gig as a gameshow host. Whatever he does he'll be forever known as "former Health Secretary, Matt Hancock" which on the political spectrum of success amounts to fuck all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Craig said: Whatever he does he'll be forever known as "former Health Secretary, Matt Hancock" which on the political spectrum of success amounts to fuck all. Aye, especially when he was the health secretary responsible for the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Monkeys Fist said: Aye, especially when he was the health secretary responsible for the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of people. Who was sacked for breaking the very social distancing rules he put in place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Do remember the whole 'Care' badge fiasco? A mate of mine who works in social care went absolutely fucking nuts, rightly pointed out the costs could have been better spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17280 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Hancock wants to continue to be famous and to keep bringing in the money that comes with that. He’s probably somewhere on the psycho spectrum. Most normal people would’ve morally perished from utter shame if they’d acted the way he did in office 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Most normal people would’nt have acted the way he did in office FYP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9778 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 45 minutes ago, Isegrim said: He already did with questioning various results, especially Arizona. On a totally related note German police raided various places today related to right-wing, qanon, russia sympathisieren related conspiracists who wanted to overthrow the government and form a new government. The woman chosen to keep charge of the ministry of justice is a former member of the Bundestag and judge of a civil law court. The disease is spreading rather quickly. It was meant to be in the Trump thread. Don’t know why it ended up in this thread. anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30619 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Ah you Germans, always up to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9778 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, ewerk said: Ah you Germans, always up to something. Starting to invade ourselves tbh 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 It's the most wonderful time of the year 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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