Kevin Carr's Gloves 4296 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 11:57, Renton said: Okay, I think we are talking cross purposes here, my point stems back to the OP by ewerk, about Sizewell C. To sum up my point: 1) We need continuous energy more than ever in the 21st century, to operate anything electrical including C/H. 2) It's not always windy, so wind generation alone is not the sole answer. 3) It's not always light, so solar alone can never be the sole answer. 4) Often it is neither windy nor light. For example winter at any time outside the 6 hour day time window during anticyclonic conditions. 5) The example made in point 4) also happens to be the time when it is coldest and we need the most domestic energy. So for this reason, what I am saying is we ALSO need a dependable source of energy that is not dependent on these factors that are outside of our control. That is why I think not proceeding with Sizewell C is a mistake. I also think cancelling HS2 and NPR are huge mistakes. We should be investing in carbon neutral infrastructure as much as possible, of all kinds. Expand What is an anticyclone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33649 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 12:00, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: What is an anticyclone? Expand Have you tried reading scientific papers on the matter? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4296 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 12:02, ewerk said: Have you tried reading scientific papers on the matter? Expand I'm reading one now and I'm not sure it is what Renton thinks it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 45838 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 12:03, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: I'm reading one now and I'm not sure it is what Renton thinks it is. Expand While it’s defined as winds moving in an anti-clockwise ( northern hemisphere) direction, the effect of having an anticyclone over you is light to minimal surface wind, so in the context of this discussion Renton is quite correct to cite them as something that would reduce wind power. But, they are also generally characterised by bright, clear conditions, so solar power the fuck out of them. We need multiple options. Tidal and wave power seems a no-brainer to me. Regular, dependable, and abundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24199 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 12:03, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: I'm reading one now and I'm not sure it is what Renton thinks it is. Expand An area of high pressure which tends to block depressions (storms). A still mass of air basically, very common in winter. My Dad was a keen amateur meteorologist, had his own weather station, so I know a fair bit about the weather and climate. Not enough to be arsed to read scientific papers on it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24199 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) On 04/11/2022 at 12:11, Monkeys Fist said: While it’s defined as winds moving in an anti-clockwise ( northern hemisphere) direction, the effect of having an anticyclone over you is light to minimal surface wind, so in the context of this discussion Renton is quite correct to cite them as something that would reduce wind power. But, they are also generally characterised by bright, clear conditions, so solar power the fuck out of them. We need multiple options. Tidal and wave power seems a no-brainer to me. Regular, dependable, and abundant. Expand Agree but note: only6 hours daylight in mid-winter. And anticyclones at this time cause very cold temperatures. When planning anything you need to account for the worst case conditions if you want your system to be robust and, in this case, avoid black outs. Edited November 4, 2022 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 37150 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 11:15, Meenzer said: One might cautiously suggest that Britain needs to be, as it were, insulated Expand Britain's already sufficiently insulated..... from the EU, so rejoice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11810 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 11:58, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: I think it is in Scotland. Expand Wouldn't surprise me, good government. Also Scotland also has plenty of water, something else Westminster want to keep their hands on, SE England being a tad dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33649 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Firstly, this is a bad look for Sunak if he's forced to sack Williamson so soon after appointing him. Secondly, imagine the hilarity at being threated by Gavin fucking Williamson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6121 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Threatening who? Has he told someone to shut up and go away again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6121 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I don't think we should underestimate how powerful that rhetoric was mind you, Russia definitely did shut up and go away. We've heard nothing about them since... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33649 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 12:45, Rayvin said: Threatening who? Has he told someone to shut up and go away again? Expand It's literally in the second tweet in the thread, you lazy fuck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6121 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Aye my bad, I saw that and somehow was under the impression that she was administrating the procedure rather actually being the complainant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37287 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 12:00, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: What is an anticyclone? Expand Someone who doesn’t like cyclones 👍🏻 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24199 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 14:57, Alex said: Someone who doesn’t like cyclones 👍🏻 Expand Someone married to uncle cyclone? 👍 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16619 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 14:57, Alex said: Someone who doesn’t like cyclones 👍🏻 Expand On 04/11/2022 at 15:51, Renton said: Someone married to uncle cyclone? 👍 Expand 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11344 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Someone against Psychology students getting financial support? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16619 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 16:09, The Fish said: Someone against Psychology students getting financial support? Expand 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6995 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23962 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 16:09, The Fish said: Someone against Psychology students getting financial support? Expand Comedy Dave back in full effect 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 45838 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 14:57, Alex said: Someone who doesn’t like cyclones 👍🏻 Expand On 04/11/2022 at 15:51, Renton said: Someone married to uncle cyclone? 👍 Expand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10630 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 16:24, Craig said: Expand I think it was his friend who phoned in for him because I don’t think he was capable to do it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51213 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Fucking hell quite the little energy tizzy over the last couple of pages. Like watching a handful of Gavin Williamsons go at it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51213 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Btw if there was ever a time to cut the cord to twitter, it's now. With that giant manbaby Musk firing half the business at zero notice like a great big cunt, with advertisers pulling out, and him reportedly firing the team responsible for handling misinformation on the eve of the US midterms. Everybody should delete it and sink the company and his $44bn investment. It's about to become even more of a fucking cesspit anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 23328 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Just watching Italia 90 docu on Channel 4. They talk about the 80s and how fucked it was with the country and the unrest. It could easily be about now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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