Kevin Carr's Gloves 3860 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Renton said: Okay, I think we are talking cross purposes here, my point stems back to the OP by ewerk, about Sizewell C. To sum up my point: 1) We need continuous energy more than ever in the 21st century, to operate anything electrical including C/H. 2) It's not always windy, so wind generation alone is not the sole answer. 3) It's not always light, so solar alone can never be the sole answer. 4) Often it is neither windy nor light. For example winter at any time outside the 6 hour day time window during anticyclonic conditions. 5) The example made in point 4) also happens to be the time when it is coldest and we need the most domestic energy. So for this reason, what I am saying is we ALSO need a dependable source of energy that is not dependent on these factors that are outside of our control. That is why I think not proceeding with Sizewell C is a mistake. I also think cancelling HS2 and NPR are huge mistakes. We should be investing in carbon neutral infrastructure as much as possible, of all kinds. What is an anticyclone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30393 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: What is an anticyclone? Have you tried reading scientific papers on the matter? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3860 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 minute ago, ewerk said: Have you tried reading scientific papers on the matter? I'm reading one now and I'm not sure it is what Renton thinks it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42186 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: I'm reading one now and I'm not sure it is what Renton thinks it is. While it’s defined as winds moving in an anti-clockwise ( northern hemisphere) direction, the effect of having an anticyclone over you is light to minimal surface wind, so in the context of this discussion Renton is quite correct to cite them as something that would reduce wind power. But, they are also generally characterised by bright, clear conditions, so solar power the fuck out of them. We need multiple options. Tidal and wave power seems a no-brainer to me. Regular, dependable, and abundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21428 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: I'm reading one now and I'm not sure it is what Renton thinks it is. An area of high pressure which tends to block depressions (storms). A still mass of air basically, very common in winter. My Dad was a keen amateur meteorologist, had his own weather station, so I know a fair bit about the weather and climate. Not enough to be arsed to read scientific papers on it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21428 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: While it’s defined as winds moving in an anti-clockwise ( northern hemisphere) direction, the effect of having an anticyclone over you is light to minimal surface wind, so in the context of this discussion Renton is quite correct to cite them as something that would reduce wind power. But, they are also generally characterised by bright, clear conditions, so solar power the fuck out of them. We need multiple options. Tidal and wave power seems a no-brainer to me. Regular, dependable, and abundant. Agree but note: only6 hours daylight in mid-winter. And anticyclones at this time cause very cold temperatures. When planning anything you need to account for the worst case conditions if you want your system to be robust and, in this case, avoid black outs. Edited November 4, 2022 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32883 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Meenzer said: One might cautiously suggest that Britain needs to be, as it were, insulated Britain's already sufficiently insulated..... from the EU, so rejoice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9311 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: I think it is in Scotland. Wouldn't surprise me, good government. Also Scotland also has plenty of water, something else Westminster want to keep their hands on, SE England being a tad dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30393 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Firstly, this is a bad look for Sunak if he's forced to sack Williamson so soon after appointing him. Secondly, imagine the hilarity at being threated by Gavin fucking Williamson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5188 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Threatening who? Has he told someone to shut up and go away again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5188 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I don't think we should underestimate how powerful that rhetoric was mind you, Russia definitely did shut up and go away. We've heard nothing about them since... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30393 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Threatening who? Has he told someone to shut up and go away again? It's literally in the second tweet in the thread, you lazy fuck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5188 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Aye my bad, I saw that and somehow was under the impression that she was administrating the procedure rather actually being the complainant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34950 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: What is an anticyclone? Someone who doesn’t like cyclones 👍🏻 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21428 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 52 minutes ago, Alex said: Someone who doesn’t like cyclones 👍🏻 Someone married to uncle cyclone? 👍 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15466 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 59 minutes ago, Alex said: Someone who doesn’t like cyclones 👍🏻 5 minutes ago, Renton said: Someone married to uncle cyclone? 👍 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10809 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Someone against Psychology students getting financial support? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15466 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Fish said: Someone against Psychology students getting financial support? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21868 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, The Fish said: Someone against Psychology students getting financial support? Comedy Dave back in full effect 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42186 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Alex said: Someone who doesn’t like cyclones 👍🏻 50 minutes ago, Renton said: Someone married to uncle cyclone? 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9741 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Craig said: I think it was his friend who phoned in for him because I don’t think he was capable to do it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44554 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Fucking hell quite the little energy tizzy over the last couple of pages. Like watching a handful of Gavin Williamsons go at it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44554 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Btw if there was ever a time to cut the cord to twitter, it's now. With that giant manbaby Musk firing half the business at zero notice like a great big cunt, with advertisers pulling out, and him reportedly firing the team responsible for handling misinformation on the eve of the US midterms. Everybody should delete it and sink the company and his $44bn investment. It's about to become even more of a fucking cesspit anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19991 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Just watching Italia 90 docu on Channel 4. They talk about the 80s and how fucked it was with the country and the unrest. It could easily be about now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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