Politics

[Gemmill 44900]

Cabinet of all the brain cells. Hasn't Truss already admitted they didn't share the mini budget with cabinet? 

[Monkeys Fist 42459]

 

[Renton 21627]

34 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Cabinet of all the brain cells. Hasn't Truss already admitted they didn't share the mini budget with cabinet? 

 

Yep. Mind the tories were pretty vocal in cheering it when it was announced in parliament, particularly the bits about tax cuts for the ultra-rich. 

[Toonpack 9431]

 

 

[trooper 940]

When she turns up to PMQ's tomorrow I expect Ian Blackford to go gor the "juggler"

 

[ewerk 30620]

18 hours ago, Meenzer said:

 

Truss's personal approval rating is now -61  

 

 

[Craig 6682]

I've just had a software subscription service renewal come through at work. 46% increase since this time last year thanks to the value of the pound. 

Fucking nuts.

[Ginolaandtonic 169]

25 minutes ago, Craig said:

I've just had a software subscription service renewal come through at work. 46% increase since this time last year thanks to the value of the pound. 

Fucking nuts.

 

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Edited October 18, 2022 by Ginolaandtonic

[Craig 6682]

8 minutes ago, Ginolaandtonic said:

 

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 if only it was that exciting. DLP so fairly fundamental.

Hikes of that level are crippling for a business our size. Meanwhile the energy giants continue to evade windfall tax. It's utterly disgusting.

[Renton 21627]

Nice to see how democratic the tory party is. No need for an election for the new tory leader apparently. Of course, I seriously doubt the parliamentary party could agree on a "unity" candidate anyway.

 

[Craig 6682]

Put bluntly, the need to reaffirm if their mandate from 3 years ago, pre-Brexit, pre-Pandemic and pre-Starmer is still valid. We all know the answer, but we were in a totally different economic, and political climate in December 2019.

[Rayvin 5223]

39 minutes ago, Craig said:

 

 if only it was that exciting. DLP so fairly fundamental.

Hikes of that level are crippling for a business our size. Meanwhile the energy giants continue to evade windfall tax. It's utterly disgusting.

 

The Tories were clear on this tbf. "Fuck business" I believe was one of the post-referendum comments.

[Gemmill 44900]

Looks like the triple lock is about to be abandoned, so we can assume that benefits won't be uplifted for inflation either. 

 

They're saying they'll stick with the commitment for defence spending to be 3% of GDP though so Ben Wallace can continue playing fat action man. 

[ewerk 30620]

15 minutes ago, Craig said:

Put bluntly, the need to reaffirm if their mandate from 3 years ago, pre-Brexit, pre-Pandemic and pre-Starmer is still valid. We all know the answer, but we were in a totally different economic, and political climate in December 2019.

 

The governing party isn't elected for a three year term though. It's rare that the political landscape doesn't change over any government's five year term. You can disagree with it but they're well within their rights not to call an election.

[Renton 21627]

Looks like they are now dumping the triple lock on pensions. Another tick on their suicide box. [I have to say, I don't think pensioners should get special treatment over working families on tax credits btw, but this is going to hugely fuck off their voter base]. 

[Renton 21627]

1 minute ago, ewerk said:

they're well within their rights not to call an election

 

Constitutionally maybe, but really, morally, they aren't. And we all know it, and they are fucked whichever way they decide to go now. 

[ewerk 30620]

Just now, Renton said:

 

Constitutionally maybe, but really, morally, they aren't. And we all know it, and they are fucked whichever way they decide to go now. 

 

Firstly, they obviously don't give a fuck about morals but also why are they morally obliged to do so? Should every unpopular government sacrifice themselves?

[Craig 6682]

22 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

The governing party isn't elected for a three year term though. It's rare that the political landscape doesn't change over any government's five year term. You can disagree with it but they're well within their rights not to call an election.

They may be within rights, but it's putting self-interest ahead of the country's needs and empitomises these cunts. Rattling on that "we have a strong mandate" is no longer valid.

[ewerk 30620]

Would any political party call an election right now if they were in the same position?

[Alex 35095]

Unless there’s a mass exodus to Labour an election isn’t in the post. And that would be career suicide anyway for those Tory MPs. Truss is a goner though. It’s just a case of when as they aren’t about to let her lead them to an electoral annihilation 

Edited October 18, 2022 by Alex

[Renton 21627]

38 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

Firstly, they obviously don't give a fuck about morals but also why are they morally obliged to do so? Should every unpopular government sacrifice themselves?

 

Because it's a zombie government, not just unpopular, which is damaging the country. How is it moral to continue with this? And how is it democratic to change leaders multiple times? I can only assume you arew playing devil's advocate here. Putting party before country is clearly not moral. 

Edited October 18, 2022 by Renton

[Alex 35095]

Well they certainly aren’t constitutionally or legally obliged. We’re kind of in uncharted territory here but then clinging on is entirely to be expected imo 

[ewerk 30620]

5 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Because it's a zombie government, not just unpopular, which is damaging the country. How is it moral to continue with this? And how is it democratic to change leaders multiple times? I can only assume you arew playing devil's advocate here. Putting party before country is clearly not moral. 

 

It's moral because the people voted them in. These weren't nice, competent politicians to begin with, they haven't suddenly become worse since 2019. They're cunts and they told the country they were cunts and yet the country voted the cunts in.

 

Regarding the change of leader, we live in a parliamentary system. Despite the fact that Johnson claimed a personal mandate it was technically a mandate for the Conservative party and that party still commands the HoC.

 

I'd like to see the cunts out as much as anyone but the fact is that they are free to govern until 2024 as long as they have a majority and are under no obligation to call an election that will decimate their party.

Edited October 18, 2022 by ewerk

[Renton 21627]

9 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

It's moral because the people voted them in. These weren't nice, competent politicians to begin with, they haven't suddenly become worse since 2019. They're cunts and they told the country they were cunts and yet the country voted the cunts in.

 

Regarding the change of leader, we live in a parliamentary system. Despite the fact that Johnson claimed a personal mandate it was technically a mandate for the Conservative party and that party still commands the HoC.

 

I'd like to see the cunts out as much as anyone but the fact is that they are free to govern until 2024 as long as they have a majority and are under no obligation to call an election that will decimate their party.

 

Once again, they're not under a legal requirement, no. But it's not just their leader they have changed (potentially twice), it's their entire manifesto. Instead of levelling up, we now have auserity mark 2. Literally nobody voted for that. Of course it's immoral they continue, of course they will continue out of self-interest. But self interest on this basis is inherently immoral. 

 

ANd btw, to be pedantic decimate means reduce by 10%. They are going to be more than decimated.

 

[ewerk 30620]

9 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

ANd btw, to be pedantic decimate means reduce by 10%. They are going to be more than decimated.

 

 

To be pedantic that may be the origin of the word but is not the only literal meaning of the word today.