Renton 21429 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Just now, Dr Gloom said: You don’t think his climate change bill was a big deal? £300bn investment in renewables, new minimum taxes on big companies… I’m amazed he got it through congress tbh Being a bit facetious tbh, but Starmer won't deliver what's needed imo. Which is complete constitutional reform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3958 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Renton said: I also think people are hugely overestimating the power of the legacy press here. Hardly any fucker reads them The legacy press certainly doesn't have the impact it used, but it still creates a subliminal drumbeat for the morons to march to. Added to which the press also has also lost the ability to hold people to account, and tell truth to power as the phrase goes, it is almost totally pure propaganda now. More importantly the BBC has completely relinquished its role to inform, the both sidesism that brought us Brexit and climate denial, and made major figures out of Farage Johnson and ReesMogg continues unabated. Just heard the news headlines on Radio 5 and they played a minute long clip of govt minister but quoted 10 words from Starmer. Most people listening would give the government side credence and just hear tac cuts. No mention of the pound or the cost of borrowing It's a long way from in the bag amongst the actual people whose vote matters 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42186 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Braverman setting out her stall as Home Secretary and Anti-Woke Minister, ffs. Home Secretary Suella Braverman tells police to stop symbolic gestures https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63015388 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21429 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, spongebob toonpants said: The legacy press certainly doesn't have the impact it used, but it still creates a subliminal drumbeat for the morons to march to. Added to which the press also has also lost the ability to hold people to account, and tell truth to power as the phrase goes, it is almost totally pure propaganda now. More importantly the BBC has completely relinquished its role to inform, the both sidesism that brought us Brexit and climate denial, and made major figures out of Farage Johnson and ReesMogg continues unabated. Just heard the news headlines on Radio 5 and they played a minute long clip of govt minister but quoted 10 words from Starmer. Most people listening would give the government side credence and just hear tac cuts. No mention of the pound or the cost of borrowing It's a long way from in the bag amongst the actual people whose vote matters I think that's fair enough. The thing that most pisses me off is the weight given to vox pops. But anyway, all this is happening and STILL labour are way ahead in the polls. Maybe see the glass half full instead of half empty. Seems strange me saying this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21429 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Braverman setting out her stall as Home Secretary and Anti-Woke Minister, ffs. Home Secretary Suella Braverman tells police to stop symbolic gestures https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63015388 Have we said Braverman is a cunt enough yet? Anyway, she's a cunt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 10 hours ago, ohhh_yeah said: That cunt is MP of the next constituency to me (I've got the delights of Maria Miller!) and he's absolutely hated by the locals - does fuck all, is permanently in Westminster. Still holds a 20K majority though! Proof indeed that'll fucking vote for anything with a blue rosette round here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6549 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 6 hours ago, spongebob toonpants said: The legacy press certainly doesn't have the impact it used, but it still creates a subliminal drumbeat for the morons to march to. People may not be buying the newspapers but they are still reading their websites. Daily Heil gets over 500m views every month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6549 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 When Rents is the voice of optimism then it is probably time to re-evaluate tbh. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7011 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 23 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: The Tories can never claim again to be the party of fiscal responsibility or economic stability. They know they're fucked at the next election. Win win for them. Make their rich mates richer, and fuck the economy just in time for Labour taking over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7011 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 14 hours ago, Gemmill said: I don't agree that the papers can spin this for them. The papers can lie to you about something that hasn't happened but will be great (Brexit) or something that is happening to other people (evil migrants and benefit cheats), but they can't lie to you about what's happening to you. They can't tell you you're better off when you know you aren't, or that you CAN pay that energy bill and do all the other things you used to be able to do, when you know for a fact that you can't. Eventually reality catches up with you and bites. It already is, and things are gonna get worse from here, not better. This lot are fucked. We are getting to the tipping point with this though. Half the country has cognitive dissonance about Brexit being great, despite the fact every aspect of their life is worse. It's like the real life version of "don't look up" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30393 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 She’s fucking mental. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17150 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 hours ago, ewerk said: She’s fucking mental. Just read this…..it’s like she & Kwarteng are just carrying out what they outlined in their book. “That’s the plan, let’s get it done” consequences don’t seem to come into their thinking. It’s bizarre to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34951 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 11 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: We are getting to the tipping point with this though. Half the country has cognitive dissonance about Brexit being great, despite the fact every aspect of their life is worse. It's like the real life version of "don't look up" I don’t think it’s half the country but it might be enough voters in some constituencies. But unless Labour decide to make Brexit an issue pre-election, it’s not going to be a major factor in who wins the election. It is, of course, but I’m taking about the parties drawing a direct link between it and the country’s problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34951 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 14 hours ago, Holden McGroin said: People may not be buying the newspapers but they are still reading their websites. Daily Heil gets over 500m views every month. Most of it is celeb shite on their website iirc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21868 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Alex said: Most of it is celeb shite on their website iirc. the sidebar of shame is a popular feature, or so I’m told 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34951 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) That trailer for Laura Kuenssberg on Sunday btw. Not sure whether to laugh or cry Edited September 25, 2022 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34951 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Dr Gloom said: the sidebar of shame is a popular feature, or so I’m told 🙄 I don’t think I’ve look at it for years like but that was the impression I had at least - celebrity bollocks on the website with the racist bile mainly saved for the print editions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21429 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Every poll I've seen shows it's tye tories who should be the ones avoiding the Brexit issue. Meanwhile: But doing much worse in the red wall: And Starmer being human. I wish he'd go further and call Truss and cohort a bunch of cunts, but then I guess that would have a lot of Labour feminists frothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30393 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 The thing about trickle down economics and market deregulation is that even if it were to work it takes time to do so and there’s zero chance of it happening by the time of the next election. All they’re doing is showing themselves to be the cunts that they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21429 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Quote Labour on course for majority of 56, MRP poll suggests Labour is currently on course to win a majority of 56, new polling suggests. The polling is from Savanta ComRes. And, signficiantly, the 56-seat majority projection is based on an MRP (multilevel regression and post-stratification) analysis. MRP involves polling the public and then trying to project what that would mean on a seat-by-seat basis by taking the polling data for particularly demographic groups, and cross-referencing that against the demographic profile of every consitutuency in Britain. Ever since 2017, when a YouGov MRP poll predicted a hung parliament when all conventional polling pointed to a Tory majority, MRP polls have been seen as particularly good guides to election outcomes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21429 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) And here. Note this is a 7k poll which greatly increases the certainty of the outcome. Truss is getting an inverse new leader bounce. Bedwetters of toontastic take heart! Edited September 25, 2022 by Renton 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6549 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Its a marathon not a sprint Rents 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21429 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: Its a marathon not a sprint Rents Can't win with you lot. Newcastle are 2 up, but the final whistle hasn't gone. Put it this way, if its a marathon Labour is Paula Radcliffe and Truss is Jo Brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9741 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, Renton said: Can't win with you lot. Newcastle are 2 up, but the final whistle hasn't gone. Put it this way, if its a marathon Labour is Paula Radcliffe and Truss is Jo Brand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21429 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Burnham has said he would introduce PR. Really hope this gains momentum [No pun intended there, I hear Streeting has renamed them inertia]. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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