TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Phew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46208 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Hmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46208 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Need the England band playing The Great Escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46208 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Looking like Labour have held on here. Bundle check (some sort of recount) has been requested by the Tories, which obviously wouldn't have happened if they were ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46208 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Labour hold by 323 votes. Suck my balls Tories and the cunt Galloway who took over 8k votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46208 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Leadbeater is fucking RIPPED btw. Proper defined shoulders and lady biceps, no wonder she was standing down that brummie cunt activist last week, she would have fucking laced him. I reckon Quiff is gonna changes his colours here. She looks crossfit strong to me, Quiffy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46208 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Galloway has just done an interview with the media saying he'll be challenging the result in the courts, the embarrassing old twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46208 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Shoutout to the 1,254 daft shite Lib Dem voters that nearly handed Johnson a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46208 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Shoutout to the 1,254 daft shite Lib Dem voters that nearly handed Johnson a win. Also shoutout to those that switched. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10059 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Also shoutout to those that switched. It’s beyond my comprehension how Lab and Lib Dem cannot see the ONLY way to fuck off the tories is to get out of each other’s way. Do it for one election only, bring in PR and every vote then counts and the tories are fucked !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46208 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Aye, hope for pragmatism at the next GE. It's mental that Labour sneaked a win with Galloway taking 21% of the vote. Suggestions are they made some gains in Tory areas. Thanks Matt Hancock. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31238 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 What a massive cunt George Galloway is. Such a committed socialist that he runs for a seat he knows he has no hope of winning purely to try and enable the Tories to get in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46208 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Raab doesn't have much of a majority to play with iirc. Anyway, things are not great for Labour at the minute, but there are also signs that the Tory sleaze is finally starting to catch up with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35667 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Also great to see Reform UK doing fuck all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35667 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 41 minutes ago, ewerk said: What a massive cunt George Galloway is. Such a committed socialist that he runs for a seat he knows he has no hope of winning purely to try and enable the Tories to get in. Stirs up hatred for personal gain basically 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22059 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Raab doesn't have much of a majority to play with iirc. Anyway, things are not great for Labour at the minute, but there are also signs that the Tory sleaze is finally starting to catch up with them. Well hopefully this means we have hit the low water mark for Labour at HArtlepool and the tide will turn. Absolutely need a tactical alliance with LD and Greens though. Does anybosy know what the feeling is with the public towards PR btw? COuld the progressive parties get it over the line or are people still too wedded to FptP? The AV referendum was a disaster after all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46208 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Alex said: Stirs up hatred for personal gain basically He's such a fucking boring old cunt in front of the camera too. The only time he's been box office was when he went over to America and rinsed one of their committees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22059 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Found this: https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/public-would-support-a-change-to-proportional-representation/ 54% of the public support switching to PR, only 20% oppose it. Even most conservative voters support it. It would be idiotic for the progressive parties not to combine forces to get this pushed through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5355 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 54% sounds about the size of the overall progressive majority that this country has. We are crying out for PR as a nation - at that point all the stupid petty divisive nonsense between the left, the left of centre and the centre can transform into robust and useful debate without offering landslides to the far fucking right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5355 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 There's not a lot of margin for error on that though - 54% means you'd need basically everyone to vote for an agreed party in their local area. It would be an enormous achievement for political strategists, and frankly, if it's going to happen, they should start building up for it now. Not just hamfistedly pull it together later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35667 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: He's such a fucking boring old cunt in front of the camera too. The only time he's been box office was when he went over to America and rinsed one of their committees. Just as well he’s lacking in charisma tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22059 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rayvin said: 54% sounds about the size of the overall progressive majority that this country has. We are crying out for PR as a nation - at that point all the stupid petty divisive nonsense between the left, the left of centre and the centre can transform into robust and useful debate without offering landslides to the far fucking right. Doesn't appear to be that split between partisan line, the data suggests that all people form all regions want PR. This is massively encouraging because 10 years ago the large majority of people outright rejected PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31238 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Rayvin said: There's not a lot of margin for error on that though - 54% means you'd need basically everyone to vote for an agreed party in their local area. It would be an enormous achievement for political strategists, and frankly, if it's going to happen, they should start building up for it now. Not just hamfistedly pull it together later on. I'd be amazed if 54% of the public knew what a PR electoral system was. The figures would change a fair bit in the run up to any referendum. Ideally it would be scheduled as a standalone referendum rather than tagged on to local elections as a low turnout would certainly help the chances of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22059 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, ewerk said: I'd be amazed if 54% of the public knew what a PR electoral system was. The figures would change a fair bit in the run up to any referendum. Ideally it would be scheduled as a standalone referendum rather than tagged on to local elections as a low turnout would certainly help the chances of success. The "Don't know" figure there is 9%, rising to 31% if you include "neither support nor oppose". Of course, people could be lying but I'm not sure why that would massively favour the PR option (depending on the wording of the question). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5355 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ewerk said: I'd be amazed if 54% of the public knew what a PR electoral system was. The figures would change a fair bit in the run up to any referendum. Ideally it would be scheduled as a standalone referendum rather than tagged on to local elections as a low turnout would certainly help the chances of success. From a tactical perspective though, we'd be unlikely to get an actual referendum in place without winning power. And if we actually managed to get a coalition government into power, I'm tempted to say we shouldn't bother with the referendum and just make it law. Boris Johnson style. Edited July 2, 2021 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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