ewerk 30385 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 And that's how it starts... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7011 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Sinn Fein leading in the Irish polls. Taking our country back is going to result in Ireland and Scotland taking theirs back. Top job Boris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17130 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 7 hours ago, ewerk said: And that's how it starts... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 29 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Sinn Fein leading in the Irish polls. Taking our country back is going to result in Ireland and Scotland taking theirs back. Top job Boris You’re maybe making a bit of a leap there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7011 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 How so? Sinn Fein called for an Irish referendum following the Brexit vote iirc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Ah they're always calling for a border poll. They're doing well in the polls down south but are still likely to be the third largest party in the Dail and neither of the big two parties want to work with them in coalition. Plus the power to grant a referendum largely lies with the British government and there's no way they're going to grant one unless it's very clear that there's a majority for it in NI which isn't evident at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 The polling I saw showed a parallel with the UK in that young people are mainly voting SF and older voters are sticking with the two old/main parties. I'd always got the impression that the two old parties are like a lot of countries where there are two very centrist parties who very rarely try anything radical - maybe young support for SF shows that the next generation do want change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I think you're right there. FG is centre right and FF is very much in the centre but a lot of people are being attract to SF's left wing politics. SF's biggest mistake in this election could be that they're only running 42 candidates. I think even they underestimated they're own popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Do they still advocate armed struggle that side of the border? Just wondering why they're still pariahs for the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Irish unity certainly isn't a factor in the election and there's absolutely no desire for a return to violence but there is still a perception of many in the south of SF as being the IRA in suits. I'd take the polls with a pinch of salt though as SF may have issues with getting that support to actually go out to the polls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 This is the sort of thing that still follows them: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/mother-of-alleged-ira-victim-urges-electorate-to-remember-her-son-when-voting-1.4160675 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Understandable - though why would the IRA want to kill him if he wasn't involved in criminality? Doesn't excuse it of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 spot on, and why starmer probably isn't the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5187 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 There isn't an answer for Labour this time out. As I've said many times, there was no conceivable victory for Labour no matter who was in charge. And while Brexit looms large, we're still going to be shafted irrespective of who is in charge. Starmer is the best bet for me for the same reason that Corbyn was. If we're going to lose anyway, I'd prefer to die on my feet than on my knees. And he supports freedom of movement, so he gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Did the so call red wall voters care about Blairs unfettered immigration? I'd say probably not much when that can be overridden by a general feeling of trust which is where Corbyn failed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9741 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 21 hours ago, ewerk said: And that's how it starts... Incredible it didn’t make the 10pm news. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44539 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: spot on, and why starmer probably isn't the answer. Nandy wins back the working classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 Cracking Ad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9741 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) Cracking recipes https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/collection/gammon Edited February 6, 2020 by Isegrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15448 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Cracking Ad I don't understand how you're so shit at life 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21404 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15448 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Incidentally, we're all cool with Boris's dad being our diplomatic representative in the coronavirus crisis, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44539 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Fucking hell man, that cunt in the video. "guys he's from the North, can we get him one of their hats?" How fucking weird is Johnson btw. I do not get the appeal at all. Just a stuttering bumbling fuckwad of a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5187 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 That video made me die inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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