Politics

[Monkeys Fist 42459]

[Dr Gloom 21924]

2 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

Two "sources" in this case, almost certainly D Cummings and M Hancock. 

A news editor would not have accepted that. 

[Renton 21627]

Eggscrutiating stuff from Snore man. 

[Dr Gloom 21924]

1 minute ago, S Norman said:

 

It is generally not a good idea to put eggs in the fridge.  Eggs have a protective film on the outside and the law makes it illegal for egg producers in the UK to  wash their eggs as this might remove this film.  

 

https://www.quora.com/In-the-UK-eggs-must-not-be-washed-and-are-kept-at-room-temperature-In-the-US-eggs-must-be-washed-and-refrigerated-Why-are-there-different-regulations

[Dr Gloom 21924]

i don't know who the fuck is telling her this like 

 

[S Norman 4]

6 minutes ago, Renton said:

Eggscrutiating stuff from Snore man. 

 

Now you won`t die of salmonella poisoning and I can go back lurking 

[Monkeys Fist 42459]

Just now, S Norman said:

 

Now you won`t die of salmonella poisoning and I can go back lurking 

[Monkeys Fist 42459]

5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

i don't know who the fuck is telling her this like 

 

Isn’t she her own editor? 
Genuinely asking btw, who edits her at the Beeb? 

[Gemmill 44901]

"pretty grim". She loves that phrase. 

[Gemmill 44901]

Is it even remotely realistic that she has the inside track on postal votes btw? Is that not as under lock and key as every other vote? 

[ewerk 30620]

1 minute ago, Gemmill said:

Is it even remotely realistic that she has the inside track on postal votes btw? Is that not as under lock and key as every other vote? 

She'll regurgitate any old shite she's told by the Tories.

[Rayvin 5223]

Gloom man. Seriously. Why are you defending these people? They've called your whole profession into disrepute by being partisan fucking arseholes.

 

They've let us down, they've let you down. No one is going to rally to the BBC when the Tories come for it. It's not because we're all being unfair  it's because they're at best -at best- fucking shit at what they're meant to do. At worst they operate in a state of institutional fear of the Tories which prevents them from acting as they should. With the exception of Kuenssberg who surely must be one of Johnson's mistresses.

[Renton 21627]

4 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Is it even remotely realistic that she has the inside track on postal votes btw? Is that not as under lock and key as every other vote? 

 

Candidates are allowed to read them coming in. It's forbidden to disclose results though, LK is on dodgy ground here. 

[Rayvin 5223]

1 minute ago, Renton said:

 

Candidates are allowed to read them coming in. It's forbidden to disclose results though, LK is on dodgy ground here. 

 

So it's not illegal for them to look at them? That's surprising to say the least. Are you sure? There's people on Twitter reporting it to the electoral commission...

[Renton 21627]

3 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

Gloom man. Seriously. Why are you defending these people? They've called your whole profession into disrepute by being partisan fucking arseholes.

 

They've let us down, they've let you down. No one is going to rally to the BBC when the Tories come for it. It's not because we're all being unfair  it's because they're at best -at best- fucking shit at what they're meant to do. At worst they operate in a state of institutional fear of the Tories which prevents them from acting as they should. With the exception of Kuenssberg who surely must be one of Johnson's mistresses.

 

He's a journalist in denial, it's only just dawning on him. 

 

 

[Dr Gloom 21924]

12 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

Gloom man. Seriously. Why are you defending these people? They've called your whole profession into disrepute by being partisan fucking arseholes.

 

They've let us down, they've let you down. No one is going to rally to the BBC when the Tories come for it. It's not because we're all being unfair  it's because they're at best -at best- fucking shit at what they're meant to do. At worst they operate in a state of institutional fear of the Tories which prevents them from acting as they should. With the exception of Kuenssberg who surely must be one of Johnson's mistresses.

Excuse me, who are “these people” I am apparently defending? Have you seen me defend LK since the fake fight story broke, which I condemned?

All I’ve done since is explain how tweeting something is different to having something published in bbc news, in the sense that it isn’t edited or commissioned.

Edited December 11, 2019 by Dr Gloom

[Rayvin 5223]

Just now, Dr Gloom said:

Excuse me, who are “these people” I am apparently defending? Have you seen me defend LK since the fake fight story broke?

 

You've literally just been going on about how "technically" no one has done anything wrong because even though literally everyone will take things said by journalists on Twitter as gospel, it doesn't actually count as a BBC broadcast.

 

So when I say they're calling your profession into disrepute, it's because no fucker knows that they can just tweet any old bullshit because they arent scrutinised there, and it gets spread around as the truth. LK and Peston know they can. And they know people don't know that they can.

 

So the BBC lends it's impartial credibility to them, they shit all over it, and then you say it's our fault for not appreciating that the nuance is that they can act like partisan spunksockets all they want on Twitter because it's not actually the BBC.

 

If I was you I'd be fucking furious. I'm furious on your behalf even.

[Dr Gloom 21924]

1 hour ago, Rayvin said:

 

You've literally just been going on about how "technically" no one has done anything wrong because even though literally everyone will take things said by journalists on Twitter as gospel, it doesn't actually count as a BBC broadcast.

 

So when I say they're calling your profession into disrepute, it's because no fucker knows that they can just tweet any old bullshit because they arent scrutinised there, and it gets spread around as the truth. LK and Peston know they can. And they know people don't know that they can.

 

So the BBC lends it's impartial credibility to them, they shit all over it, and then you say it's our fault for not appreciating that the nuance is that they can act like partisan spunksockets all they want on Twitter because it's not actually the BBC.

 

If I was you I'd be fucking furious. I'm furious on your behalf even.

No, I’m saying reporters, even senior political journalists, should treat the platform with the respect it demands and bloody well know better and that I’d be amazed if story like that, spun by the Tory PR machine, went out on the BBC itself without being stood up.

I’m appalled at how she’s carried on, I’ve already made that clear, and I’d be amazed if she isn’t being bollocked behind closed doors, but I’m deeply disappointed with the lack of response or adequate apology from the bbc press office over this. I would also question whether she is still in the role after the election. There is a strong case against her. But by then, of course, it’s too late, given the influence  she wields.

Edited December 11, 2019 by Dr Gloom

[Alex 35095]

38 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

i don't know who the fuck is telling her this like 

 

Dominic Cummings 

[Rayvin 5223]

Fair enough.

 

I mean to me, she has the cocky swagger of someone who either knows they're untouchable (i.e. backed from on high) or who has something lined up for herself post-shitshow anyway. 

 

But if the BBC really wants people on side, it has to actually make examples of the people doing this. And not just when it's too late. 

Edited December 11, 2019 by Rayvin

[Alex 35095]

2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

No, I’m saying reporters, even senior political journalists, should treat the platform with the respect it demands and bloody well know better and that I’d be amazed if story like that, spun by the Tory or machine, went out on the BBC itself without being stood up.

I’m appalled at how she’s carried on, I’ve already made that clear, and I’d be amazed if she isn’t being bollocked behind closed doors, but I’m deeply disappointed with the lack of response or adequate apology from the bbc press office over this. I would also question whether she is still in the role after the election. There is a strong case against her. But by then, of course, it’s too late, given the influence  she wields.

Her getting bollocked behind closed doors (if this is even happening) is just another sign of complicity from her bosses 

[Alex 35095]

36 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

"pretty grim". She loves that phrase. 

Probably says it to the mirror every morning 

[Alex 35095]

2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:

Strange taste in porn, you have 

 

 

The best line Yoda never said 

[Rayvin 5223]

6 minutes ago, Alex said:

Her getting bollocked behind closed doors (if this is even happening) is just another sign of complicity from her bosses 

 

This is a good fucking point too. We need to actually see the BBC standing up for its impartiality, not just be reassured that it's all happening.

[Dr Gloom 21924]

5 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

Fair enough.

 

I mean to me, she has the cocky swagger of someone who either knows they're untouchable (i.e. backed from on high) or who has something lined up for herself post-shitshow anyway. 

 

But if the BBC really wants people on side, it has to actually make examples of the people doing this. And not just when it's too late. 

I stand up for the free press and always will and I think generally we get a bad press, excuse the pun. I think what we’ve seen from LK the past 48 hours is shocking and most honest journalists are rightly pretty furious.