Meenzer 16709 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 It's beyond idiotic that our electoral system is so dumb, but there we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4476 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I don't wish to piss on the slight optimistic parade going on, but you all underestimate the craven stupidity of the average voter. The worst possible outcome is what we will get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6364 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:26, spongebob toonpants said: I don't wish to piss on the slight optimistic parade going on, but you all underestimate the craven stupidity of the average voter. The worst possible outcome is what we will get Expand May as well go in tails up, heads held high. We have everything to gain and nothing to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16709 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:26, spongebob toonpants said: I don't wish to piss on the slight optimistic parade going on, but you all underestimate the craven stupidity of the average voter. The worst possible outcome is what we will get Expand I've already bet on the Lib Dems getting <25.5 seats. I know May fucked it up from this position but I can't imagine a repeat performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24380 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:18, Rayvin said: It is beyond scary that the margins are going to be that fine. Expand I honestly believe this election is an existential threat to the nation as we know it. Thinking of taking Friday the13th December off. Feel stressed already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24380 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:26, spongebob toonpants said: I don't wish to piss on the slight optimistic parade going on, but you all underestimate the craven stupidity of the average voter. The worst possible outcome is what we will get Expand Didn't happen last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24380 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:27, Meenzer said: I've already bet on the Lib Dems getting <25.5 seats. I know May fucked it up from this position but I can't imagine a repeat performance. Expand Why not though? A side effect of being a Newcastle fan perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4476 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:28, Renton said: Didn't happen last time. Expand I've gone into every election in my lifetime full of hope, and Blair aside it's been a catalogue of dispair. Politics and Ashley has broken me this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16709 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:30, Renton said: Why not though? A side effect of being a Newcastle fan perhaps? Expand You might be right. I don't know, I just feel like by now there's enough of a "let's just get it done" mentality to win over enough average swing voters. Not that I've ever been one of them, so it's hard to put yourself in their place, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24149 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I think deep down we’re all shitting it but it does appear that the PM has taken a massive gamble by putting his faith in Cummings. He didn’t even try to get his WA through. We have to win something eventually (in politics, not football) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24380 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:39, Meenzer said: You might be right. I don't know, I just feel like by now there's enough of a "let's just get it done" mentality to win over enough average swing voters. Not that I've ever been one of them, so it's hard to put yourself in their place, but still. Expand It's going to be essential to effectively counter the "just get it done" narrative, which is BULL SHIT, I agree. You'd think most people this side of CT's IQ would grasp this, but..... I'm going to be up and down like the proverbial whore's drawers like. Could really do without this tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6364 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:38, spongebob toonpants said: I've gone into every election in my lifetime full of hope, and Blair aside it's been a catalogue of dispair. Politics and Ashley has broken me this year Expand I absolutely know what you mean, and if this doesn't go our way I'll be right there with you - but hang on just for this one. It's still possible that we could come away with total victory, as insane as that might sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24149 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:46, Renton said: It's going to be essential to effectively counter the "just get it done" narrative, which is BULL SHIT, I agree. You'd think most people this side of CT's IQ would grasp this, but..... I'm going to be up and down like the proverbial whore's drawers like. Could really do without this tbh. Expand you're not wrong. you and rayvin were pissing your pants the other week. now we can't lose. can i recommend a course of lithium? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51993 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Scratch what I said about Remain getting its act together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6364 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:57, Dr Gloom said: you're not wrong. you and rayvin were pissing your pants the other week. now we can't lose. can i recommend a course of lithium? Expand I was frantic because the deal was going through. I'm consistent believe it or not - while the deal looked to be going through, off the back of Labour MPs, I thought the game was up. I couldn't see any way out. With an election it's all to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33940 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:27, Meenzer said: I've already bet on the Lib Dems getting <25.5 seats. I know May fucked it up from this position but I can't imagine a repeat performance. Expand Aye, remember that May dropped the dementia tax clanger too which was a big blow for the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33940 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:40, Dr Gloom said: I think deep down we’re all shitting it but it does appear that the PM has taken a massive gamble by putting his faith in Cummings. He didn’t even try to get his WA through. We have to win something eventually (in politics, not football) Expand Cummings isn’t leading the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51993 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Me, ewerk and Gloom were like little Fonzies. Rayvin and Renton were doing mutual nappy changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33940 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Fonzies Gemmill in there with the topical references for the kids once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24149 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 15:37, ewerk said: Cummings isn’t leading the campaign. Expand he isn't? i thought that was the whole point in him being made chief of staff - he's been engineering the people v parliament election from the get go. i know lynton crosby's sidekick has been brought in but cummings is surely still pulling the strings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6364 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 15:37, Gemmill said: Me, ewerk and Gloom were like little Fonzies. Rayvin and Renton were doing mutual nappy changes. Expand I genuinely do not believe that anyone could have legitimately seen it coming that after a couple of small interruption to his deal, Johnson would inexplicably shelve the whole thing and go for an election instead. It's a ludicrous strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51993 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 15:38, ewerk said: Fonzies Gemmill in there with the topical references for the kids once again. Expand It's what Cummings was saying a few weeks back, so it literally could not be more topical, shitface. I fucking cannot wait for that border in the Irish sea to bury you in paperwork. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4476 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:52, Rayvin said: I absolutely know what you mean, and if this doesn't go our way I'll be right there with you - but hang on just for this one. It's still possible that we could come away with total victory, as insane as that might sound. Expand Come back to me with that enthusiasm when you are fifty fucking eight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33940 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 15:45, Rayvin said: I genuinely do not believe that anyone could have legitimately seen it coming that after a couple of small interruption to his deal, Johnson would inexplicably shelve the whole thing and go for an election instead. It's a ludicrous strategy Expand It was unlikely to get through though. Many of the votes at second reading were incredibly soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33940 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 15:43, Dr Gloom said: he isn't? i thought that was the whole point in him being made chief of staff - he's been engineering the people v parliament election from the get go. i know lynton crosby's sidekick has been brought in but cummings is surely still pulling the strings? Expand Nah, they’ve learned their lesson from 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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