Christmas Tree 4725 Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 45 minutes ago, Alex said: That's because the older generation are, by and large, selfish cunts. I mean, not you, obviously, given you voted for Corbyn at the last election. I would guess the majority of this board would be quite happy with a centre left labour government. It’s how that is ever possible again I’m questioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21626 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Well, well done Corbyn. I've just voted other than Labour for the first time in my life. There was a bunch of old Tory women in front of me. One didn't know how to put a cross on the ballot paper. Another put the ballot paper in her handbag and walked out before she was called back! And these soon to be deceased (factual, not nasty) have decided the fate of our country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Christmas Tree said: I would guess the majority of this board would be quite happy with a centre left labour government. It’s how that is ever possible again I’m questioning. Once Jeremy Corbyn is defeated in 2022, Labour will be offering a serious leader of the opposition so the Conservatives will be better served staying away from any of the old guard as they will not have it anywhere as easy as Theresa May has had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Renton said: Well, well done Corbyn. I've just voted other than Labour for the first time in my life. There was a bunch of old Tory women in front of me. One didn't know how to put a cross on the ballot paper. Another put the ballot paper in her handbag and walked out before she was called back! And these soon to be deceased (factual, not nasty) have decided the fate of our country! Green or Yellow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21626 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Neither Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Holy phuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 hours ago, SpaceCadet said: Once Jeremy Corbyn is defeated in 2022, Labour will be offering a serious leader of the opposition so the Conservatives will be better served staying away from any of the old guard as they will not have it anywhere as easy as Theresa May has had it. Not a chance he’ll be around then. He has nothing else to offer and the polls are against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I am cautious with polls Whether they're favouring my candidate or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Christmas Tree said: Now that momentum has control of everything I just can’t see any way back. The lunatic youth bloc vote are always going to vote for the leftist candidate who by their very nature will always be unelectable. Didn’t put you down as lunatic youth bloc, fats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 A generation condemned to low wages with no prospect of home ownership who believe there must be a better way and they're "lunatic". What a bunch of generational vampire parasites you all are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, NJS said: A generation condemned to low wages with no prospect of home ownership who believe there must be a better way and they're "lunatic". What a bunch of generational vampire parasites you all are. They’re been sold a pup and are too naive to understand. The parasites are the snake oil salesmen selling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 A pup because 40 years of Thatcherism has made the UK a paradise? Moderately left wing governments have made lots of countries better than the UK. Fuck GDP and how many billionaires live here - I'm talking about other, better measures of society like not having fucking food banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Wages are not too low, the cost of living is too high. VAT is is too much, consumers are being fleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, NJS said: A pup because 40 years of Thatcherism has made the UK a paradise? Moderately left wing governments have made lots of countries better than the UK. Fuck GDP and how many billionaires live here - I'm talking about other, better measures of society like not having fucking food banks. There was just 11 years of Thatcherism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: Wages are not too low, the cost of living is too high. VAT is is too much, consumers are being fleased. How would you reduce the cost of living and pay for the reduction in VAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, ewerk said: How would you reduce the cost of living and pay for the reduction in VAT? How would I pay for the reduction of VAT? I wouldn't, the growth will do that alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 What do you think the optimal VAT rate would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, adios said: What do you think the optimal VAT rate would be? Ideally 0% Realistically 10-15% The current standard rate is at 20% I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Show your work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, adios said: Show your work. I'm no economist, I'm just sharing. I inherited my politics from my grandfather who was involved in the treasury for his local council. He once bought me a mug for my 18th with Maggie on it, when my ex broke it not long after my grandfather's passing I was devastated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 So you're picking figures out of your arse then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, adios said: So you're picking figures out of your arse then? https://www.gov.uk/vat-rates If the government's website is my arse then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Sigh. 12 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: Ideally 0% Realistically 10-15% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Those figures were an example of where I think they ought to be. The US on average is at 13% and I think we can do just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: Those figures were an example of where I think they ought to be. Thank you for clearing that up. Tell me about this ideal 0% VAT rate. What is it ideal for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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