SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Andrew said: sure it was, the other side have no record of that do they? The other side as bad as they are, don't have their own Diane Abbott in a cabinet position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Alex said: In felt tip pen apparently The inks are custom mixed by the artist for the aquatics theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, SpaceCadet said: The other side as bad as they are, don't have their own Diane Abbott in a cabinet position. They do have a Boris Johnson though. An openly racist foreign secretary with an IQ of about 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: They do have a Boris Johnson though. An openly racist foreign secretary with an IQ of about 10. That's quite a stretch Not that I'm a fan of Boris Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 The IQ bit? I guess maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, adios said: We also seem to have this new American ideal now where impoverished turkeys like CT and SC are voting for Christmas themselves. Nothing new about it, working class people have been voting conservative all my lifetime. Basically we’ve had the same government in power since 79. Corbyn is different to that but nowhere in the world is a hard left government successful. It’s easy to promise everything to everyone, but the reality is it goes tits up and it’s the poorest who are hit the hardest by the fallout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alex 35083 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Nothing new about it, working class people have been voting conservative all my lifetime. Basically we’ve had the same government in power since 79. While in 1977 you had the least wealth inequality this country has ever seen you could see why people would buy the Conservative mantra after the winter of discontent and so on. If you can't see where things are going now you probably deserve everything that's coming to you. Or I suppose you don't, you're just thick. Or a cunt. Or both Corbyn is different to that but nowhere in the world is a hard left government successful. It’s easy to promise everything to everyone, but the reality is it goes tits up and it’s the poorest who are hit the hardest by the fallout. He isn't hard left, he's portrayed as such though. His politics wouldn't be seen as remotely outlandish in those countries you speak of where everything goes tits up all the time, like France or Sweden. But you already know this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: The inks are custom mixed by the artist for the aquatics theme. Cool. They look shite though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) I would like Alex's response to CT a thousand times if I could. I didn't have it in me to reference Scandinavia for the nth time. Edited May 2, 2018 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Corbyn is different to that but nowhere in the world is a hard left government successful. Venezuela Wherever they're not eating street dogs they're competing street dogs for scraps, but at least they all have equality. Except for the daughter of Hugo Chavez who has in excess of $4bn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Get your logical fallacy bingo cards ready 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: The other side as bad as they are, don't have their own Diane Abbott in a cabinet position. OOO don't they? by what measure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I would like Alex's response to CT a thousand times if I could. I didn't have it in me to reference Scandinavia for the nth time. Sweden (Scandinavia's wealthiest nation) has dropped from 4th to 13 in richest countries since 1960 (the introduction of the welfare state). Ever since Barmy Bernie started spouting that tosh, economists have been bending him over a knee ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Andrew said: OOO don't they? by what measure? None of them are quite as fucking gormless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: None of them are quite as fucking gormless That is very much not true, I can think of 4 off the top of my head, and thats without getting into the berks doing the power stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: Sweden (Scandinavia's wealthiest nation) has dropped from 4th to 13 in richest countries since 1960 (the introduction of the welfare state). Ever since Barmy Bernie started spouting that tosh, economists have been bending him over a knee ever since. If you know so much about economics then why are you poor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, SpaceCadet said: Sweden (Scandinavia's wealthiest nation) has dropped from 4th to 13 in richest countries since 1960 (the introduction of the welfare state). 4th richest in Europe or in the World in 1960? Also, by what metric exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Andrew said: That is very much not true, I can think of 4 off the top of my head, and thats without getting into the berks doing the power stance. The power stance can be laughed off, vacantly staring at Piers Morgan for the best part of 10 minutes, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: Sweden (Scandinavia's wealthiest nation) has dropped from 4th to 13 in richest countries since 1960 (the introduction of the welfare state). And yet Scandinavian countries make up five of the world's top ten happiest countries. They must be getting something right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Alex said: 4th richest in Europe or in the World in 1960? Also, by what metric exactly? I read it in a Nima Sanadaji piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Venezuela The strawman resorted to by the internet right wing 'thinkers' who can't actually challenge Labour's current policy direction with anything of substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Speaking of right wingers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, ewerk said: If you know so much about economics then why are you poor? I'm not an economist I'm merely interested in the subject. I wouldn't say I was poor either, far from rich though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, SpaceCadet said: I'm not an economist I'm merely interested in the subject. I wouldn't say I was poor either, far from rich though. A fucking poor excuse for a Geordie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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