Christmas Tree 4725 Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 Try to be Jamaican FFS I’ll be fine if I get deported cos I can do a great dad Jamaican accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 I suppose we should just be grateful they stopped short of issuing free fancy dress kits at the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Superb stuff from Lammy today. What a fucking shambles the Tories are right now. Rudd all but admitting so herself with her comments regarding the home office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15524 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I for one am entirely confident that EU nationals will be handled fairly and competently by the UK government after we leave the EU and see no reason the promises made to date should be viewed with any degree of scepticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17248 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Superb stuff from Lammy today. What a fucking shambles the Tories are right now. Rudd all but admitting so herself with her comments regarding the home office. Just seen his question to Rudd. Fuck me he was (rightly) furious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 It all stems from when May was running the home office. Equally incompetent as Home Secretary as she is PM, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11374 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 48 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: It all stems from when May was running the home office. Equally incompetent as Home Secretary as she is PM, it seems. Equally anti-immigration anyway. The way in which migrants have been demonised in this country is a disgrace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Yeah but the nasty left have infltrated the Labour Party via Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15524 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 If you believe you're a citizen of the world, you're a citizen of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Meenzer said: I for one am entirely confident that EU nationals will be handled fairly and competently by the UK government after we leave the EU and see no reason the promises made to date should be viewed with any degree of scepticism. Another Polish lass at work has just taken British citizenship - I think we have none left who are risking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Seeing as there doesn't seem to be a promise or pledge May isn't ready to go back on, you can hardly blame them. What a fucking disgrace this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15524 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Well done everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Extremely impressive anti semite debate currently taking place in commons. Some of the most powerful speeches I’ve seen in their, particularly from Labour female MP’s. One even given a standing ovation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Extremely impressive anti semite debate currently taking place in commons. Some of the most powerful speeches I’ve seen in their, particularly from Labour female MP’s. One even given a standing ovation. And if May had been accused of anti-semitism, you'd have been crying about it. Yawn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: And if May had been accused of anti-semitism, you'd have been crying about it. Yawn. Honestly, your passion for Corbyn when he first came along was quite refreshing, but lately you just come across as either very naive or one of the foil hat brigade. You should take your blinkers off and have the decency to comment after reviewing a few of these speeches. Female Labour MP’s (your party), crying in the House of Commons as they relay the abuse they are suffering. Your “they’re just out to get us” patter is what empowers these racists and is rightly being called out for what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I think he nailed it with ‘yawn’ like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 56 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Honestly, your passion for Corbyn when he first came along was quite refreshing, but lately you just come across as either very naive or one of the foil hat brigade. You should take your blinkers off and have the decency to comment after reviewing a few of these speeches. Female Labour MP’s (your party), crying in the House of Commons as they relay the abuse they are suffering. Your “they’re just out to get us” patter is what empowers these racists and is rightly being called out for what it is. I didn't have a passion for Corbyn - please just internalise this point. I had an intense disillusionment with literally everything that wasn't Corbyn. This has not changed. You are currently witnessing my intense disillusionment with the shitshow that is the political machinations of this country. I was on the brink of simply giving up on voting pre-Corbyn, and nothing has happened since he came along that makes me think that any other status quo party has learned a damn thing from why he is where he is, and even why Brexit happened. This farce about anti-semitism is staggering. Has anyone been killed by an anti-semitic left winger yet? Has anyone even been assaulted? All we have are vague fucking accusations of this and that at a time when we are a couple of steps away from a war with a major power. It's just... I don't even understand this country. It's fucking insane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 You’re wasting your time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I know, I just... Tbh I'm just screaming into the void anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: I didn't have a passion for Corbyn - please just internalise this point. I had an intense disillusionment with literally everything that wasn't Corbyn. This has not changed. You are currently witnessing my intense disillusionment with the shitshow that is the political machinations of this country. I was on the brink of simply giving up on voting pre-Corbyn, and nothing has happened since he came along that makes me think that any other status quo party has learned a damn thing from why he is where he is, and even why Brexit happened. This farce about anti-semitism is staggering. Has anyone been killed by an anti-semitic left winger yet? Has anyone even been assaulted? All we have are vague fucking accusations of this and that at a time when we are a couple of steps away from a war with a major power. It's just... I don't even understand this country. It's fucking insane. I like this post and agree with a lot of it, especially the second paragraph. I find it much harder to understand your disillusionment with the first paragraph though. Think back. Before the Tories got in, what was really do bad under the previous Labour government? Maybe it wasn't the socialist idealism you want, but wasn't it literally a thousand times better than what replaced it? In comparison with Cameron and May, was even Ed Miliband so bad? I don't think so. A moderate left government would have steered us away from the mess we are in now, imo. Instead of sticking, you want to twist. Well guess what, most the time you lose by twisting, and when losing is this serious, you risk losing everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, Renton said: I like this post and agree with a lot of it, especially the second paragraph. I find it much harder to understand your disillusionment with the first paragraph though. Think back. Before the Tories got in, what was really do bad under the previous Labour government? Maybe it wasn't the socialist idealism you want, but wasn't it literally a thousand times better than what replaced it? In comparison with Cameron and May, was even Ed Miliband so bad? I don't think so. A moderate left government would have steered us away from the mess we are in now, imo. Instead of sticking, you want to twist. Well guess what, most the time you lose by twisting, and when losing is this serious, you risk losing everything. At the risk of trying to sound like I'm calling it after the fact, I knew where austerity would take us (widespread lower middle/working class unrest) and it delivered us Brexit. Labour capitulated on austerity and I lost faith in them. Agree on Miliband blow for blow against the Tories, but he delivered us Brexit as much as Cameron did IMO. Or the sides of his party that wouldn't let him oppose austerity did anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 On 17/10/2016 at 16:23, Rayvin said: I'll worry about anti-semitism in Labour when it comes to more than just a few randoms making stupid comments. I guess not then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Wow, I'm surprisingly consistent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rayvin said: I didn't have a passion for Corbyn - please just internalise this point. I had an intense disillusionment with literally everything that wasn't Corbyn. This has not changed. You are currently witnessing my intense disillusionment with the shitshow that is the political machinations of this country. I was on the brink of simply giving up on voting pre-Corbyn, and nothing has happened since he came along that makes me think that any other status quo party has learned a damn thing from why he is where he is, and even why Brexit happened. This farce about anti-semitism is staggering. Has anyone been killed by an anti-semitic left winger yet? Has anyone even been assaulted? All we have are vague fucking accusations of this and that at a time when we are a couple of steps away from a war with a major power. It's just... I don't even understand this country. It's fucking insane. Oh so nothing lives up to your high idealism. That’s fucking life. I understand supporting the next best thing but if he’s the closest thing in politics you can identify with then you’re in trouble. And anti-semitiism is the same whether it results in violence or not. Labour appear to have a problem with it, though that’s far from saying it prevalent. But Corbyn’s staunch anti-Israel views don’t help the accusation of anti-semetism. Edited April 17, 2018 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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