Gemmill 44872 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Johnson giving a speech now. He looks like the honey monster's retarded big brother. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21624 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 18 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Johnson giving a speech now. He looks like the honey monster's retarded big brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13866 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 4 hours ago, Gemmill said: Johnson giving a speech now. He looks like the honey monster's retarded big brother. Also regularly seen, wearing no trousers and looking confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 http://theconversation.com/hard-evidence-how-biased-is-the-bbc-17028 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 Exclusive: Times/ YouGov Poll Voting intention has the Tories back ahead for the first time since the June election CON 42%(+2), LAB 41%(nc), LDEM 7%(nc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30610 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 No surprise given Corbyn’s complete failure to capitalise on the complete chaos of the last few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21624 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 There was one last week that had labour 8 ahead I think. Whatever though, agree labour should be doing much better given the state of the economy alone let alone Brexit bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4384 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Renton said: There was one last week that had labour 8 ahead I think. Whatever though, agree labour should be doing much better given the state of the economy alone let alone Brexit bollocks. Things haven't changed for those who vote tory - pensioners and those in work who are doing okay. It's not as if they're going to start giving a fuck about anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, NJS said: Things haven't changed for those who vote tory - pensioners and those in work who are doing okay. It's not as if they're going to start giving a fuck about anyone else. You do realise a lot of these who “vote Tory” are the same ones who voted labour to give Blair his massive landslides? I know you like to paint them as the pensioners, shires and bankers, but the folk who change governments are just average workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17257 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: You do realise a lot of these who “vote Tory” are the same ones who voted labour to give Blair his massive landslides? I know you like to paint them as the pensioners, shires and bankers, but the folk who change governments are just average workers. Or as I like to call them "the easily led, malleable, simple to manipulate fools" It's them who voted for Brexit too. Is any of this sounding close to home?.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Or as I like to call them "the easily led, malleable, simple to manipulate fools" It's them who voted for Brexit too. Is any of this sounding close to home?.. I call them thoughtful, politically aware and not sheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 18 hours ago, Alex said: http://theconversation.com/hard-evidence-how-biased-is-the-bbc-17028 I don't watch much BBC news or politics these days, but on the odd occasion it's clear that they're not great at striking a balance and favour attention grabbing guests/stories, than totally unbiased reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4384 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Christmas Tree said: You do realise a lot of these who “vote Tory” are the same ones who voted labour to give Blair his massive landslides? I know you like to paint them as the pensioners, shires and bankers, but the folk who change governments are just average workers. In general when the libs are down as they are now, the UK reverts to an almost US situation where blocks vote labour or tory and its decided by those who don't have that loyalty and imo tend to vote selfishly. That suited Blair as a lot of those people wanted to be seen as being part of the zeitgest at the time. The outlier now is the youth vote - I don't think they've got the same loyalty instinct so they're up for grabs and as the tories have ignored and shat on them for years, they were easy pickings for the non-traditional appeal of Corbyn. If they stay engaged its going to be hard for the tories to make inroads into that group as it stands. I'd love to see a Spanish flu type culling of the old to at least reset the ground rules from the incredibly selfish hands of the baby boomers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Still think if a GE shows up on the horizon, Labour should win it. The poll that came closest to predicting the outcome of the last GE is the one that has Labour 8 points ahead as well. If they mobilise the youth vote, they'll win. Especially since they were on the defensive last time. That said, I don't think we will get a GE any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17257 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Christmas Tree said: I call them thoughtful, politically aware and not sheep. Not sheep, those who believe what they’re told by politicians? Yes its cynical but but it’s very apparent to me we’ve been constantly lied to and belittled by those in power my entire adult life. Voting for any mainstream party is becoming a pointless act. A likely hung parliament with Corbyn at the helm will change fuck all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4384 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 43 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Still think if a GE shows up on the horizon, Labour should win it. The poll that came closest to predicting the outcome of the last GE is the one that has Labour 8 points ahead as well. If they mobilise the youth vote, they'll win. Especially since they were on the defensive last time. That said, I don't think we will get a GE any time soon. I'd like to see the Labour "rebels" and full party machinery actually give 100% at a general election as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, NJS said: I'd like to see the Labour "rebels" and full party machinery actually give 100% at a general election as well. Yeah that remains to be seen though. They were clearly keen to avoid tarnishing their 'brand' last time out. They may think they'll get control of the party back if Corbyn fails this time, so they still may take a very backseat role. But yeah, would be nice to see them come out swinging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44872 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 The CEO of Persimmon is due to receive a £132m bonus this year - the bonus scheme is linked to the share price, which went through the roof following the introduction of Help to Buy. He receives the first payment of £50m on new years eve. Money basically funneled directly from the public purse into his bank account. Good old Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, Gemmill said: The CEO of Persimmon is due to receive a £132m bonus this year - the bonus scheme is linked to the share price, which went through the roof following the introduction of Help to Buy. He receives the first payment of £50m on new years eve. Money basically funneled directly from the public purse into his bank account. Good old Tories. They also themselves (directors and shareholders) buy shares to boost the price and then channel the bonuses, dividends and perks offshore to shell companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 I challenge anyone to watch Dianne Abbott’s interview on Marr today and tell me they’d feel confident in her as Home Secretary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17257 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: I challenge anyone to watch Dianne Abbott’s interview on Marr today and tell me they’d feel confident in her as Home Secretary. Let’s all laugh at the fat black lass part 2437. Meanwhile in the real world... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/27/libya-fallout-theresa-may-failed-terror If the media had properly been doing their jobs May should’ve been forced to resign over her actions as Home Secretary. But no, Tubs here and the rest of the sheep think a brain freeze on live tv is far more significant for cabinet ministers. They get the government they deserve but are too distracted and manipulated to recognise they’re being shafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Let’s all laugh at the fat black lass part 2437. Meanwhile in the real world... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/27/libya-fallout-theresa-may-failed-terror If the media had properly been doing their jobs May should’ve been forced to resign over her actions as Home Secretary. But no, Tubs here and the rest of the sheep think a brain freeze on live tv is far more significant for cabinet ministers. They get the government they deserve but are too distracted and manipulated to recognise they’re being shafted. Im not sure what her colour or weight has to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17257 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Im not sure what her colour or weight has to do with it? the most predictable retort of the year. You can’t recognise the inherent bigotry and misogyny that Diane Abbot is being subjected to? Why are you singling her out for criticism? Give me 5 good well thought out reasons. Go on. Back your spineless self up for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 51 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: the most predictable retort of the year. You can’t recognise the inherent bigotry and misogyny that Diane Abbot is being subjected to? Why are you singling her out for criticism? Give me 5 good well thought out reasons. Go on. Back your spineless self up for a change. i came in from work this afternoon, watched Marr, despaired at performance, asked a question (which as usual you’ve dodged). Have you even watched it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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