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[Rayvin 5223]

Yeah fair enough but that was pre-melt down, the Tories have had 7 post Armageddon. Still no change. Corbyn clearly would change it.

[Alex 35101]

Desperate stuff from CT  

[ewerk 30647]

12 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

 

I agree and so I’m sure do the 3,000,000 people now in employment.

 

Aye but you're a self-serving cunt who is only interested in his own happiness i.e. a Tory.

[Dr Gloom 21959]

Still blaming labour for be global financial crisis I see

[Dr Gloom 21959]

And of course he voted Labour in the last election

[Alex 35101]

We'd be balls deep in the Middle East atm if it wasn't for Labour tbh

[Rayvin 5223]

Aye this is it. One of the good things about the Labour grassroots hijacking is that we can say it really isn't the same party as it was. So all this stuff about "Well the last time Labour was in power" rings hollow to me.

 

And even then, Blair would never have let the shitshow unfold that Cameron did.

[Alex 35101]

Rings hollow to CT too but that's all he has to come back with at the moment.

[Park Life 71]

Brown made it worse though...Obviously with the Tories cheering him on.

[Meenzer 15552]

CT cares about brown people when it serves his argument. Wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire otherwise.

[Gemmill 44968]

23 minutes ago, Meenzer said:

CT cares about brown people when it serves him curry. Wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire otherwise.

 

FYP. 

[Alex 35101]

[PaddockLad 17286]

3 hours ago, Christmas Tree said:

 

 Really? Longing for the good old days of illegal wars, Middle East destruction and financial Armageddon.

 

I can sit here and say with a clear concience that i never voted for Tony Blair. Can you? For the record I think you're just the sort of empty vessel that was initially taken in by him. 

[Dr Gloom 21959]

11 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

 

I can sit here and say with a clear concience that i never voted for Tony Blair. Can you? For the record I think you're just the sort of empty vessel that was initially taken in by him. 

you didn't vote even labour in 97? 

 

i was taken in, though I was only 18 at the time, and voted Labour out of family duty, as much as anything, without really understanding everything Blair stood for back then. 

[Alex 35101]

 

[Dr Gloom 21959]

they aint no party like a new labour party

 

 

[Dr Gloom 21959]

blair's face singing the red flag

 

 

[Alex 35101]

Tbf most Newcastle fans would feel bad singing that

[Renton 21640]

Ahh yes, the bad old days of New Labour. How terrible that decade was.

 

Honestly, things are so dysfunctional now that, if Brexit pans out as bad as some fear, Thatcher's PMship will seem like halcyon days. 

 

On a related note, has anyone noticed how many homeless people there are now? There's whole communities on the coast in Whitley Bay and Tynemouth, not just newcastle. It was never that bad even in the 80s. 

[ewerk 30647]

I hated Blair before it was cool [/political hipster PL]

[Rayvin 5223]

2 minutes ago, Renton said:

Ahh yes, the bad old days of New Labour. How terrible that decade was.

 

Honestly, things are so dysfunctional now that, if Brexit pans out as bad as some fear, Thatcher's PMship will seem like halcyon days. 

 

On a related note, has anyone noticed how many homeless people there are now? There's whole communities on the coast in Whitley Bay and Tynemouth, not just newcastle. It was never that bad even in the 80s. 

 

I counted 4 on Chilli road last night... was actually quite taken aback.

[PaddockLad 17286]

18 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

you didn't vote even labour in 97? 

 

i was taken in, though I was only 18 at the time, and voted Labour out of family duty, as much as anything, without really understanding everything Blair stood for back then. 

 

In a lot of ways am a natural labour voter but as ive got older Ive realised some things about myself; one, Ive always had a deep mistrust of idealogies and those who espouse them and two, am a fairly natural fence sitter in general. Add that to a fairly strong current of Liberalism in my old mans family (my gran was present at Jedburgh town hall when David Steele was first elected, 1966 I think?) then its fairly easy to see which way Ive mostly voted. I really liked Charles Kennedy, but I voted Labour in 92 & the last two GEs. 

 

Blair turned me off complelty as a person, Im fairly happy to say I saw through him straight away, but I understood completly why he could win most fair minded Labour folk such as yourself and the whole country over. Thing is CT is a blatant tory, but many of them were sedeuced too and its my opinion that theyre the ones who complain most loudly about him now when they were utterly complicit in putting him into power.  Theyre also the ones who bang on about Brown selling the gold etc etc whilst not uttering a dicky bird about what the likes of HMHM's wife and Happy Face's brother have been through under the tories. 

[Alex 35101]

14 minutes ago, Renton said:

Ahh yes, the bad old days of New Labour. How terrible that decade was.

 

Honestly, things are so dysfunctional now that, if Brexit pans out as bad as some fear, Thatcher's PMship will seem like halcyon days. 

 

On a related note, has anyone noticed how many homeless people there are now? There's whole communities on the coast in Whitley Bay and Tynemouth, not just newcastle. It was never that bad even in the 80s. 

Aye, there's loads. There was a thing on the news this morning about how there's 90,000 kids living in care and about 1/3 of them will end up homeless within a couple of years of leaving the system. How utterly fucking grim.

[Dr Gloom 21959]

i've noticed it loads in london too. it used to be confined to central areas where all the tourists are, but now we've got scores of homeless people pretty much camping out next to all train stations, around zones 2/3

[Park Life 71]

48 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

you didn't vote even labour in 97? 

 

i was taken in, though I was only 18 at the time, and voted Labour out of family duty, as much as anything, without really understanding everything Blair stood for back then. 

Just the sort of thing an empty vessel would say.