Politics

[Rayvin 5170]

We should start a new politics thread just so that he can't communicate through avatar anymore.

[Alex 34810]

Uncanny

[Happy Face 29]

I'm on board with Parky.

 

He overestimates Bregret, but the banks have told May she has to sort this shit out. Open a door for a party or coalition that will reverse brexit.

 

The only people standing in their way are Corbyn and the British public. Can't trust those fucking mugs.

[Meenzer 15383]

Uncanny

 

That's Patrick off of Spongebob, surely?

 

 

...I see your point

[Rayvin 5170]

I'm on board with Parky.

 

He overestimates Bregret, but the banks have told May she has to sort this shit out. Open a door for a party or coalition that will reverse brexit.

 

The only people standing in their way are Corbyn and the British public. Can't trust those fucking mugs.

 

You reckon?

 

It'll be interesting to see their manifesto.

[Park Life 71]

I see CT has paid us another visit.

 

Parky, out of interest, whose side are you on in this?

The absolute priority is to modify Brexit. Other stuff will have to wait for now.

Edited April 18, 2017 by Park Life

[Happy Face 29]

It'll be interesting to see their manifesto.

1 page. 3 words.

 

"Brexit means Brexit"

[Anorthernsoul 1221]

 

I own a Phone and use an App

 

 

You're so 2017.

[Meenzer 15383]

1 page. 3 words.

 

"Brexit means Brexit"

 

[ewerk 30235]

Why the fuck did she wait until Article 50 was triggered before announcing this? We've started the countdown and are going to waste the first two months on an election.

[Rayvin 5170]

Why the fuck did she wait until Article 50 was triggered before announcing this? We've started the countdown and are going to waste the first two months on an election.

 

Maybe because there's no hope of concluding things within that timeframe anyway? And also I guess because if she didn't, the Tories would have a weaker hand going into the election.

[Rayvin 5170]

I also suspect that her claim that the decision was made recently is true. I genuinely don't think she's a smart politician, just an opportunistic one. This could literally all be down to the polls.

[Gemmill 44327]

You're so 2017.

It's not me typing that, it's the site Admin being naughty and fixing it as my signature on all posts.

[rogerbarton 24]

Labour are already down to their core seats. They won't lose any of those. Lib Dems will get back 25 odd seats from Tories. May has fucked up. Lot of these polls are about Corby popularity and voting intentions based on vague pledges. That is all out the window now. Forget the polls. Brexit will be the key issue. Battle of Britain has begun.

I think they really can lose their core seats. We saw it in Copeland - okay, there was the nuclear issue, but a government clawing back a seat from the opposition? In virtually all recent polls, the Tories have a commanding lead over Labour among C2DEs. They've been losing working class support since the early 2000s, but Corbyn's leadership has accelerated the process. 

 

I hope Labour are able to cling onto their 2015 voters, but there was even a poll out last week showing that less than half of those 2015 Labour voters think Corbyn would make a better PM than May.

[Happy Face 29]

The absolute priority is to modify Brexit. Other stuff will have to wait for now.

 

51% of the electorate want brexit.  49% want to remain.

 

If it's a single issue election, and the tories are getting the entire 51% of the brexiters and Labour, SNP, Lib Dem, Green and whatever else are sharing the other 49%, how do the Tories lose any significant number of seats to this fractured opposition?

 

It would require a coalition of the SNP to take all of Scotland (easy enough), Lib Dems to win back all their tory marginals (somewhat challenging) and Labour would have to win back everyone it has lost with Corbyn at the helm, as well as the large number of Labour voters that actually want Brexit...while running on not brexiting (impossible?).

[Alex 34810]

Corbyn the man who was meant to take Labour back to its core values to lose their core support? Aye, all too believable.

[Rayvin 5170]

51% of the electorate want brexit.  49% want to remain.

 

If it's a single issue election, and the tories are getting the entire 51% of the brexiters and Labour, SNP, Lib Dem, Green and whatever else are sharing the other 49%, how do the Tories lose any significant number of seats to this fractured opposition?

 

It would require a coalition of the SNP to take all of Scotland (easy enough), Lib Dems to win back all their tory marginals (somewhat challenging) and Labour would have to win back everyone it has lost with Corbyn at the helm, as well as the large number of Labour voters that actually want Brexit...while running on not brexiting (impossible?).

 

You're assuming turnout is the same. It won't be, and it won't be in favour of Remain.

 

That said, you're otherwise right - that coalition needs to exist in principle even if not in a formal sense. I would add that they can take the middle road of single market access which the vast majority of Remainers would accept, and potentially a decent number of Brexiters.

[Andrew 4717]

We should start a new politics thread just so that he can't communicate through avatar anymore.

 

Election 2017 thread anyone? I'll give you an hour then I'll start one myself

[Rayvin 5170]

Corbyn the man who was meant to take Labour back to its core values to lose their core support? Aye, all too believable.

 

Not sure about returning to its principles, but he was supposed to shake things up and move them leftwards. All of this he did, but Brexit has killed him off. Without Brexit, what would the Tories have used to reach out to people desperate for change?

[Happy Face 29]

Election 2017 thread anyone? I'll give you an hour then I'll start one myself

Needs careful thought. I could start it and support the tories to ensure they lose, but I'd have to actually vote for them.

[Andrew 4717]

Needs careful thought. I could start it and support the tories to ensure they lose, but I'd have to actually vote for them.

 

Well, as it stands I do not know who I'll vote for at all so maybe I am a safe pair of hands?

[Park Life 71]

Well, as it stands I do not know who I'll vote for at all so maybe I am a safe pair of hands?

Andrew don't start any threads. Don't have enough blood on your hands? Sheeesh.

[Andrew 4717]

Andrew don't start any threads. Don't have enough blood on your hands? Sheeesh.

 

You do it! It's perfect!

[Park Life 71]

You do it! It's perfect!

I can't. My powers are better stealth. Satellites will change course. The drop box will be monitored. The supermarket bulletin board will be scanned. Kaufhof will put their baked beans up 10 cents.

[Rayvin 5170]

FFS.