Alex 35900 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I googled this and it's some kind of gas powered car. I don't understand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spindizzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5541 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Are you thinking they'd be useful for turning the planet into a mobile home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 The planet needs me, HF. I don't know whether people are having fewer kids on average, but if there's more people having fewer kids on average, you end up with more people. Exponential innit. Nah. There'll be as many births in 2040 as there are now Kids age 0-20 will survive more. Biggest growth in people aged 70+ Old people's homes are a massive growth industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22378 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 ...plus gatwick would have cost an estimated £5bn rather than £17bn heathrow is set to cost. are the benefits to the uk economy really so great to outweigh the greater expenditure and the noise and pollution londoners are set to suffer? I think the economic case has been through. London is one of only 2 Alpha + cities in the world. It needs a major hub airport. Frankfurt and Paris CDG have 4 runways already, schipol has 6. Nimbyism is one thing and ludditism is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46994 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 That'll be the silhouette of most of them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22494 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I think the economic case has been through. London is one of only 2 Alpha + cities in the world. It needs a major hub airport. Frankfurt and Paris CDG have 4 runways already, schipol has 6. Nimbyism is one thing and ludditism is another. new york, tokyo and paris don't all have one mega airport hub. last time i checked they were all doing alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22378 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Air travel contributes about 2% of all human caused CO2 emissions. Dry your eyes and careful getting down off those high horses. Maybe but a transatlantic flight uses as much energy as heating a house if 4 for a year. Just as well those Indians and Africans don't do club med - yet. Population is the elephant in the room. But like holidays, people aren't going to stop having kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31547 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 tokyo and paris don't all have one mega airport hub. last time i checked they were all doing alright Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 That'll be the silhouette of most of them as well. That massive drop off at the late 60s gives me chills. Government setting retirement age at the point mortality takes a nose dive isn't surprising, but I'd better be done with work by 55, i want at least 10 years golfing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22378 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) new york, tokyo and paris don't all have one mega airport hub. last time i checked they were all doing alright Purely down to geography, Japan is smaller than Europe and there are loads of destination airports in NE America.. Europe will have a megahub, the question is whether it should be London, Amsterdam, Paris or Frankfurt. I'd prefer it was here for economic reasons. Edited October 25, 2016 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15825 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I googled this and it's some kind of gas powered car. I don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Population is the elephant in the room. But like holidays, people aren't going to stop having kids. Or working in medicine. Evil bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22378 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Or working in medicine. Evil bastards. Did you know the average person consumes 2/3rds of their healthcare in the last 3 years of their life? Logan's Run them Tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5541 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) People could be forced to stop having kids. Although as HF says, that doesn't sound like it's the problem, really. Not dying early enough is. I'd settle for uploading my stream of consciousness into a computer if that becomes an option. When my body has had it, of course. Edited October 25, 2016 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22494 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Eh? those cities share capacity through a number of different airports. why couldn't london adopt that model? i don't get the obsession with a hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46994 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 [emoji38] That massive drop off at the late 60s gives me chills. Government setting retirement age at the point mortality takes a nose dive isn't surprising, but I'd better be done with work by 55, i want at least 10 years golfing. I've spent the last month or more trying to wrap my head around how much I need to retire comfortably and whether it's feasible to get there by 55. There's loads of decent blogs out there about it. Anyway, it's gonna be close. If capitalism can stay the course for the next 15 to 20 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31547 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) those cities share capacity through a number of different airports. why couldn't london adopt that model? i don't get the obsession with a hub. Do they? In Tokyo, Haneda is busier than Heathrow and in Paris they only really have Orly (apart from CDG) which isn't massive. Edited October 25, 2016 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22494 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 ... and surely improving transport links between gatwick and heathrow would cost less than digging up part of the M25 to make space for a new runway? like that's a stretch of motorway that needs more disruption ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31547 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I've spent the last month or more trying to wrap my head around how much I need to retire comfortably and whether it's feasible to get there by 55. There's loads of decent blogs out there about it. Anyway, it's gonna be close. If capitalism can stay the course for the next 15 to 20 years... What's the magic number? I think we've found the real reason for you not wanting kids, you self-centred bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22494 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Do they? In Tokyo, Haneda is busier than Heathrow and in Paris they only really have Orly (apart from CDG) which isn't massive. yes but narita is also a world class airport. why not have two world class airports instead one bloated one? perhaps paris wasn't the greatest example. new york operates fine as it is though. it's not like you can't be a major international centre without adopting this model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31547 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 yes but narita is also a world class airport. why not have two world class airports instead one bloated one? perhaps paris wasn't the greatest example. new york operates fine as it is though. it's not like you can't be a major international centre without adopting this model. Narita is also less busy than Gatwick. Though I do take your point. I'm just bored and difficult this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46994 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 What's the magic number? I think we've found the real reason for you not wanting kids, you self-centred bastard.Oh I fully admit to being selfish about it. I like nice holidays at couples hotels and I like being able to do what I want, when I want. The magic number is basically your annual outgoings (that you would have at retirement rather than what you have now) times 25. So you assume a 4% withdrawal rate basically. 3.5% to be conservative, although 4% has been the figure that would have worked for someone retiring in all but 2 of the last 40 years. In most cases 4% is enough for you to end up actually growing your pot during retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31547 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 That assumes that interest/growth exceeds inflation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46994 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Or keeps pace with post retirement. Obviously you've got the option/possible requirement to lower your withdrawal rate or do some work in the leaner times. Turns out there's quite a sizeable "financial independence" movement when you start to look into this stuff. Lots of people who have retired in their 30s/40s and survived through the 2008 crisis by just being adaptable to conditions when they needed to be. A lot of them have blogs and explain the maths behind it etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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