Renton 20618 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 "Of course the Jewish Holocaust was an awful and extraordinary event and Jewish people should have a day to celebrate that". Celebrate it? She really has an unfortunate way with words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15198 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Ah, the "Jewish Holocaust", as nobody feels the need to call it unless they have a point to make. Fuck's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5131 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I came across this post today by a hedge fund manager that could be nonsense but if not, paints a rather worrying picture for the UK regardless of political parties in power. Anyone with a greater financial mind than me want to weigh in on it? https://iiblack.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/example-title/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4542 Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 I came across this post today by a hedge fund manager that could be nonsense but if not, paints a rather worrying picture for the UK regardless of political parties in power. Anyone with a greater financial mind than me want to weigh in on it? https://iiblack.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/example-title/ We're all going to die!!!! So enjoy life, don't worry about stuff you can't do anything about and most importantly live within your means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34280 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Not quite what Rayvin had in mind I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5131 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20618 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Cheery stuff Rayvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5131 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Well, you know me. Full of optimism about the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29808 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I'm just disappointed that I can't vote for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34280 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Not as much as CT is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15198 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Plenty of new hobby ideas in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) I came across this post today by a hedge fund manager that could be nonsense but if not, paints a rather worrying picture for the UK regardless of political parties in power. Anyone with a greater financial mind than me want to weigh in on it? https://iiblack.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/example-title/ "Who can blame them when even the Bank of England chief economist tells people not to bother with pensions but to buy houses instead." The same Bank of England that saw the 2008 crash coming a mile off... " A culture has arisen similar to that seen in the US before the 2007 housing crash with a certainty that house prices can only rise and people wishing to throw every penny of their investment at the market. " That's what we were all saying in the other thread iirc. Overall that's a very depressing outlook, you can live within your means and turn a blind eye to this as CT says but of course you should naturally worry about these things because they can have an extremely large impact on your life, even the worth of the money sitting in your bank account or under your mattress. Edited September 30, 2016 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4542 Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 "Who can blame them when even the Bank of England chief economist tells people not to bother with pensions but to buy houses instead." The same Bank of England that saw the 2008 crash coming a mile off... " A culture has arisen similar to that seen in the US before the 2007 housing crash with a certainty that house prices can only rise and people wishing to throw every penny of their investment at the market. " That's what we were all saying in the other thread iirc. Overall that's a very depressing outlook, you can live within your means and turn a blind eye to this as CT says but of course you should naturally worry about these things because they can have an extremely large impact on your life, even the worth of the money sitting in your bank account or under your mattress. "In every life you have some trouble but when you worry you make it double". Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34280 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 "In every life you have some trouble but when you worry you make it double". Mark Twain Pretty sure that's Bobby McFerrin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41520 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I reckon Mr. McFerrin has County Durham heritage, as he sings it " Don't Werry" Mackem Twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4281 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I reckon Mr. McFerrin has County Durham heritage, as he sings it " Don't Werry" Mackem Twat. MLF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29808 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 "When life gives you lemons have a lemon party". Mark Twain FYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32125 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 "In every life you have some trouble but then you order portions that double". Mark Twain CT'dYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15198 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Don't worry Go chippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5131 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 "Who can blame them when even the Bank of England chief economist tells people not to bother with pensions but to buy houses instead." The same Bank of England that saw the 2008 crash coming a mile off... " A culture has arisen similar to that seen in the US before the 2007 housing crash with a certainty that house prices can only rise and people wishing to throw every penny of their investment at the market. " That's what we were all saying in the other thread iirc. Overall that's a very depressing outlook, you can live within your means and turn a blind eye to this as CT says but of course you should naturally worry about these things because they can have an extremely large impact on your life, even the worth of the money sitting in your bank account or under your mattress. It is depressing. What's bothering me is the extent to which it might be true. It's all well and good for this guy to make the argument it has - and I can see how it makes sense, logically - but surely there must be government policies or something that can be enacted in order to at least limit the damage? Are our governments so short termist that they're simply not capable of doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20618 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 It is depressing. What's bothering me is the extent to which it might be true. It's all well and good for this guy to make the argument it has - and I can see how it makes sense, logically - but surely there must be government policies or something that can be enacted in order to at least limit the damage? Are our governments so short termist that they're simply not capable of doing this? The answer to that, because of the electoral system, is a resounding yes. Look at Cameron's gamble as a classic example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 It is depressing. What's bothering me is the extent to which it might be true. It's all well and good for this guy to make the argument it has - and I can see how it makes sense, logically - but surely there must be government policies or something that can be enacted in order to at least limit the damage? Are our governments so short termist that they're simply not capable of doing this? Agree fully with what Renton said in response, there's no votes in long term thinking for the most part you don't need to look any further than CT talking about how Labour are to blame for the '08 financial crash for proof it's whoever is in now is who is to blame for most. I think the other thing with Government is that a lot of them are lifelong politicians, they have no real knowledge or experience in the fields they are regulating and as I said somewhere in the film thread ( sorry Fish) the people below them aren't generally the brightest sparks in the field (unless they reach out to high level ex-professionals etc) so I don't think they have the best grasp on these topics or how best to try and avert these sort of issues. My favorite comedian does a whole bit about the problem of overpopulation and how it's this very real issue but no one is going to touch it with a barge pole, it would effectively require a politician to stand up and announce how they are going to systematically decrease the population by 40-50%. We all know this exponential growth in population is completely unsustainable but there's no way a politician can stand and make a long term pledge on it. While it's obviously more visceral a topic than economics I really do think it shows how difficult it is to get people to vote for long term things if something like overpopulation that is so clearly an issue that everyone understands would get zero traction how would a complex issue that very little of the population understand (some that don't even advocating burying your head in the sand about in this very thread) fare better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43228 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Aye so stop having kids, you fucking cunts. I've told you all this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41520 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Don't worry Go chippy Repeat to fart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5131 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Agree fully with what Renton said in response, there's no votes in long term thinking for the most part you don't need to look any further than CT talking about how Labour are to blame for the '08 financial crash for proof it's whoever is in now is who is to blame for most. I think the other thing with Government is that a lot of them are lifelong politicians, they have no real knowledge or experience in the fields they are regulating and as I said somewhere in the film thread ( sorry Fish) the people below them aren't generally the brightest sparks in the field (unless they reach out to high level ex-professionals etc) so I don't think they have the best grasp on these topics or how best to try and avert these sort of issues. My favorite comedian does a whole bit about the problem of overpopulation and how it's this very real issue but no one is going to touch it with a barge pole, it would effectively require a politician to stand up and announce how they are going to systematically decrease the population by 40-50%. We all know this exponential growth in population is completely unsustainable but there's no way a politician can stand and make a long term pledge on it. While it's obviously more visceral a topic than economics I really do think it shows how difficult it is to get people to vote for long term things if something like overpopulation that is so clearly an issue that everyone understands would get zero traction how would a complex issue that very little of the population understand (some that don't even advocating burying your head in the sand about in this very thread) fare better? Which comedian is that? And spot on, I'd say. The same issue exists in management to be honest. No one is thinking beyond the next 5 years, tops, into the future - as they probably won't even be in the same company these days. So you get decisions being made that look good in the short term, but which have long term negative consequences that can be identified, but which aren't dealt with because they'd lower EBITDA in the short term. Dismal state of affairs. There needs to be a cultural shift towards long term rewards, especially as we're living longer. I also don't think politicians should be afraid to come out and say that we need to reduce populations. I'd support motions along those lines. I'd support a two child limit in the UK ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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