Politics

[Alex 35588]

Or the choice between a leave candidate who really wanted to remain and vice-versa.

Edited July 11, 2016 by Alex

[Christmas Tree 4835]

Chair of 1922 committee to speak at 12.30

[ChezGiven 0]

I cant wait for the Netflix adaptation of all this anyway. Helen Mirren as Theresa May, Matt Lucas as Boris Johnson, Bernard Cribbins as Jeremy Corbyn, Alan Pardew as Michael Gove and Idris Elba as Farage.

[PaddockLad 17661]

[Renton 22003]

I was saying last week to someone that i thought May had masterminded the whole fallout from the referendum in her favour. Michael Gove comes over as a self absorbed prick, just the sort of person who could be flattered into doing something stupid. The whole pace at which the killing of Boris (encouraged by someone senior in the party) was quickly translated into an act of a traitor (rolled out perfectly across the news cycle with buy in from the DM - who did leak that message from Vine?) just made me think it was too neat to be just 'unfolding events' - power doesnt get transferred so dramatically on the whims of on the cuff decision-making.

 

Anyway, seem i'm not the only one who thought this

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/09/country-political-crisis-tories-prime-minister

 

"We may assume that powerful Conservative figures wanted Boris Johnson gone, for historical as well as proximal reasons. Someone lofty may have spoken smoothly into the ear of his lieutenant, Michael Gove, to persuade him he was prime minister material and that he should desert. When he did and Johnson stepped aside, a so-called grandee, Michael Heseltine, was on hand to disembowel the corpse. Then, for his 15 minutes, Gove was before us, cross-gartered like foolish Malvolio, until another grandee, Kenneth Clarke, in concert with the Daily Mail, was ready to knife his guts. Two down in the summer of contempt."

 

It was all May all along.

I'm very sceptical about conspiracies in general but this is entirely plausible.

[Christmas Tree 4835]

Leadsoms gone. Sounds like no 2nd candidate.

 

All hail May

[Tom 14013]

Creep.

[Gemmill 46037]

Leadsom: Standing in leadership contest worse than childbirth.... Not that Theresa May would know.

[Rayvin 5299]

My god, the level to which I despise the Tories has reached heights totally unforeseen to me up until today.

 

They should be voted into oblivion for this utter fucking chaos.

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Leadsom: Standing in leadership contest worse than childbirth.... Not that Theresa May would know.

 

Oof.

[PaddockLad 17661]

With all leaves main players ironically all erm "leaving" for one reason or another I wonder how the negotiations with the EU will pan out?.... If it is a major conspiracy by the (slightly) saner part of the Tory party to get a remain figure in as PM for that particular gig then well fuckin played folks

[Renton 22003]

With all leaves main players ironically all erm "leaving" for one reason or another I wonder how the negotiations with the EU will pan out?.... If it is a major conspiracy by the (slightly) saner part of the Tory party to get a remain figure in as PM for that particular gig then well fuckin played folks

Hopefully it will signal a soft Brexit rather than a hard one, which is preferable. Going to be a lot of unhappy Leavers though.

[Christmas Tree 4835]

Confirmed May is PM

[Rayvin 5299]

Hasn't May literally just said that stopping freedom of movement will be prioritised over staying in the single market? She's going full blown brexit man.

[Holden McGroin 6785]

Yeah, I thought that as well. Unless i've missed something.

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Hasn't May literally just said that stopping freedom of movement will be prioritised over staying in the single market? She's going full blown brexit man.

I didn't hear her say that

[Rayvin 5299]

Q: Would you stay in the single market?

May says she wants to get the best deal for trade in goods and services. But free movement of labour cannot continue. The Brexit vote was very clear on that, she says.

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That's not what that says.

[Rayvin 5299]

Put simply, we are out. Not even Norway style out, we're out like Zimbabwe is out.

 

This has been a disaster beyond all reckoning...

[Tom 14013]

[Christmas Tree 4835]

Q: Would you stay in the single market?

May says she wants to get the best deal for trade in goods and services. But free movement of labour cannot continue. The Brexit vote was very clear on that, she says.

Which isn't saying its prioritised.

[Rayvin 5299]

That's not what that says.

 

It's not what it says unless you believe that the EU is going to allow us to remain in the single market without freedom of movement. So, unless there is EU reform.

 

Or am I missing something?

[Christmas Tree 4835]

 

It's not what it says unless you believe that the EU is going to allow us to remain in the single market without freedom of movement. So, unless there is EU reform.

 

Or am I missing something?

Yes. The Negogiation!!!!

[Rayvin 5299]

Which isn't saying its prioritised.

 

Well, the word prioritised was taken from the Guardian, but I'm struggling to see how anyone can come to a different conclusion. Care to spell out how that statement doesn't effectively mean that stopping freedom of movement is more important than trade? Given that Freedom of Movement 'Cannot continue' and trade and services will get 'the best deal possible'. Pretty clear to me.

[Christmas Tree 4835]

 

Well, the word prioritised was taken from the Guardian, but I'm struggling to see how anyone can come to a different conclusion. Care to spell out how that statement doesn't effectively mean that stopping freedom of movement is more important than trade? Given that Freedom of Movement 'Cannot continue' and trade and services will get 'the best deal possible'. Pretty clear to me.

See my previous post.