Renton 21606 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 My comment about MS actually refers to one of my best mates family you arrogant prick. Eh? I wasn't talking about you. Are you always this angry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Well the person I know has now appealed after going to the CAB for advice. Has been referred to a specialist in December and until the appeal has been decided (no expected date for this) now has to live on half of what they were getting when they were on their DLA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CanadianJack Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Well the person I know has now appealed after going to the CAB for advice. Has been referred to a specialist in December and until the appeal has been decided (no expected date for this) now has to live on half of what they were getting when they were on their DLA. The CABayeAye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Orly? How many people on this forum have you called right wingers lately then? about 30% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene_Clark 12 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Michael Crick has him in his sights; remember the last Tory chairman this happened to? A bad time awaits him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 So anyone else planning on giving up their employment rights for shares in the company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Apparently Boris was in great form at the conference yesterday and at 11.15 today its Camerons turn. Can anyone seriously see anything else other than another 12 years of Conservative rule. Cameron to win again followed by Boris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15521 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 We don't even have Conservative rule at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 We don't even have Conservative rule at the minute. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17246 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Cameron won't win a majority att he next election....Boris might though, and watching the tories tear each other to pieces over this will be a fuckin scream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Cameron won't win a majority att he next election....Boris might though, and watching the tories tear each other to pieces over this will be a fuckin scream If you think thats going to be a good show just wait til the Millibands get it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17246 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 If you think thats going to be a good show just wait til the Millibands get it on. If Ed ends up making a cock of himself and Labour at the next election then there won't be any arguments...that fuckin mackem cunt David will be back in the fold before you can say "am only a non exec director!...please vote for me Tyneside!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Apparently Boris was in great form at the conference yesterday So you havent even seen it? Call yourself a tory, ffs. He's no statesmen, more of a light entertainer. His best line was about being called a mop or mop-haired 'well if i'm a mop then Cameron is a broom, cleaning up the mess that Labour left behind'. The tories are liars, the deficit was not caused by Labour's excesses and as much as Boris is a great speaker, as he tried to make that point, his logic, diction and gravitas failed him as he wasnt building an argument, just delivering a message. The deficit issue is a lie though and the austerity policy is a failure, look at the economies who have not implemented austerity and look at those who have. 'Just you wait, in the long-term we'll be shown to be right' said Hague yesterday. Tough titties baldy, you'll be out of government in the long term as no one wants austerity. There will be some bounce for Cameron today, there always is but one thing is for sure, this government has got its economic policy wrong and saying they havent only fools idiots. A 3rd quarter of recession as predicted cant be swept under the carpet or blamed on the Ed Balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 So you havent even seen it? Call yourself a tory, ffs. He's no statesmen, more of a light entertainer. His best line was about being called a mop or mop-haired 'well if i'm a mop then Cameron is a broom, cleaning up the mess that Labour left behind'. The tories are liars, the deficit was not caused by Labour's excesses and as much as Boris is a great speaker, as he tried to make that point, his logic, diction and gravitas failed him as he wasnt building an argument, just delivering a message. The deficit issue is a lie though and the austerity policy is a failure, look at the economies who have not implemented austerity and look at those who have. 'Just you wait, in the long-term we'll be shown to be right' said Hague yesterday. Tough titties baldy, you'll be out of government in the long term as no one wants austerity. There will be some bounce for Cameron today, there always is but one thing is for sure, this government has got its economic policy wrong and saying they havent only fools idiots. A 3rd quarter of recession as predicted cant be swept under the carpet or blamed on the Ed Balls. A serious point (if you can answer without getting all economisty on me) The government quite often points to the low credit we can obtain as a country and how this saves all of us paying higher interest rates. We are told again and again that because of the policies we are following, this is why the credit agencies offer us low credit when other countries (and their subjects) pay considerably more. Even the likes of the IMF seem to forecast poor growth, but follow that up with saying we are on the right course. Add to this that Labour pretty much say they will do exactly the same if they get in, its pretty understandable that its all a tad confusing, dont you think. (if you were normal ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Remember when the Conservatives said they'd match Labour's spending too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The government quite often points to the low credit we can obtain as a country and how this saves all of us paying higher interest rates. We are told again and again that because of the policies we are following, this is why the credit agencies offer us low credit when other countries (and their subjects) pay considerably more. By low credit, they mean bond yields. Yields are a measure of the rate of return demanded by the bond purchasers. The government has a deficit, so sells bonds to bond dealers. The Spanish etc have high yields and we have low yields. Also the US have low yields. Understood? So, now lets look at the statement 'we have low bond yields because we have implemented austerity'. For that statement to logically hold, that must (has to) mean that Spain has not implemented austerity and the US has. Spain has implemented austerity and the US has not So, its basically a lie. The UK has low bond yields because we can devalue our currency to stimulate export growth. Spain can not. We can purchase our own bonds via the BoE, EU law is just changing to allow the ECB to do this for member states. We can implement QE, which is where the BoE buys financial products from banks to increase the money in circulation. This is meant to be a stimulus and many in the financial world like this, so yields demanded dont rise. Even though they're all wrong, which is irrelevant to trying to understand why since yield demanded is about nerves and confidence. The UK has a flexible labour market and is seen as being able to adapt more quickly to changing economic circumstances. The labour laws of Spain, France, Italy etc are seen as a major hinderance to long term economic health. The whole point of yesterday's announcement is to show the government is committed to flexibility in our labour market 'structure'. This structure refers to skills needed for the years ahead, not those just passed. Our bond yields never went up but is that because we implemented austerity? Fair question but the answer is no. The US have not implemented austerity, in fact the opposite was true in 2009, there is no further fiscal stimulus but there is no austerity either. The result? Negative bond yields in the US. That means bond traders paying the US government to keep its money as a hedge against inflation. No austerity, highest debt in history, lowest bond yields in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Yup. US treasuries still the safest of safe havens. The austerity line is bullshit. I'm convinced the Tories know it but they're using the situation to make their long desired cuts to the public sector while millionaires get tax breaks on income. Cameron is a good pr man but it's the same old with this lot however they dress it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 What a load of shite he's come out with about wanting the same for everyone's kids as his. The whole point of school selection whether public or private is to give your kids an advantage. That involves making sure the good school has the money and no trouble makers as well as keeping the poor schools down. Privilege exists to maintain the power for a select few - it can't be spread as he suggested as that would defeat its purpose. What a fucking idiot he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 See the employment figures released yesterday showed that Employment is at the highest levels since records began! Even youth unemployment fell by more than 60,000 Be nice if things started to pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Hmmm. And how accurate are the figures and the method of counting? Sorry to be so sceptical but all I get (construction industry) is large firms going under (have been a few recently in the NE) and smaller ones doing work for nothing to keep the wheels turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 Hmmm. And how accurate are the figures and the method of counting? Sorry to be so sceptical but all I get (construction industry) is large firms going under (have been a few recently in the NE) and smaller ones doing work for nothing to keep the wheels turning. ONS (office for National statistics) so basically God as statistics go. Don't think in the great schem of things it's a big deal, just be nice if its the start of an upturn. (And I'm on the doom and gloom side so I'm more hopeful than anything else). With regard to construction mind, the feeling I get is that it's picked up. I think we have to put to one side the bubble for construction with Riverside apartments getting thrown up and sold off plans. My sister runs a firm in Leeds supplying nuts and bolts to the construction industry and having been virtually down and out since 2008, they are seeing signs of growth (still could go bust though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 Crime at the lowest level for 25 years as well. Pretty damn amazing considering the state of the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17246 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 George Osborne has been nicked for travelling with a standard class ticket in a first class carriage this afternoon....just how much is he worth again?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 An aide to Mr Osborne initially refused to pay the £160 supplement and said the chancellor did not want to move into standard class, Virgin Trains said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44851 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 God, imagine being George Osborne's aide. I'd shit in his briefcase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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