Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 Sounds like desperate sound bites from a desperate politician ahead of party conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Labour are well ahead of the conservatives in the polls CT, and Milliband's stock has also risen. Agree he was an absolutely awful choice, but there's a strong likelihood he might be the next PM as traditional Liberal voters migrate to labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 They're all as bad as each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 Labour are well ahead of the conservatives in the polls CT, and Milliband's stock has also risen. Agree he was an absolutely awful choice, but there's a strong likelihood he might be the next PM as traditional Liberal voters migrate to labour.b 1. Polls are a waste of time mid parliament. 2. All journos will tell you that the knives are being sharpened for Red Ed and this conference is seen as make or break for him. With regard to the bigger political picture Labour have already said that they won't alter the cuts, or slow them down after all that "too much too fast" crap. But they will launch another year long spending review if they get in! Last thing the country needs tbf. If they want to get into power ( and unlike Blair and co in 97 I don't think this lot has what it takes), they need to start talking up some decent real policies that are more than fiddling with numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I disagree. A massive condem backlash will probably be enough to get labour in power or at least gain seats so they are the biggest party in a new coalition. It's massively depressing in any case. Why do you call him 'red Ed' when he's anything but? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Some student Tory propaganda told him to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 I disagree. A massive condem backlash will probably be enough to get labour in power or at least gain seats so they are the biggest party in a new coalition. It's massively depressing in any case. Why do you call him 'red Ed' when he's anything but? He was called red ed because his policies (pre power) were considered far left and because it woz the unions wot won it for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) Some student Tory propaganda told him to. Fuck off Bore Edited September 30, 2012 by Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 He was called red ed because his policies (pre power) were considered far left and because it woz the unions wot won it for him Aye, but he's clearly not particularly left wing now. I wish his brother had won it, he would have wiped the floor with Cameron, who incidentally has exceeded all my expectations in mediocrity. I know you're not going to agree on that btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Well, I suppose the NHS spends five times that on a year. Whats that got to do with the price of fish? We need the NHS. We dont need fighter jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 Aye, but he's clearly not particularly left wing now. I wish his brother had won it, he would have wiped the floor with Cameron, who incidentally has exceeded all my expectations in mediocrity. I know you're not going to agree on that btw. I like a "good politician" whatever the colour. When I say good, I don't mean the whitest of the white etc etc I mean good at politics. There is no one currently surfacing on the Labour side that is interesting me (and I dare say inspiring the public). Labour should have rolled with Harriet Harman for a few years while they sorted themselves out. I think the other Milliband is equally as dull btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CabayeAye Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Aye, but he's clearly not particularly left wing now. I wish his brother had won it, he would have wiped the floor with Cameron, who incidentally has exceeded all my expectations in mediocrity. I know you're not going to agree on that btw. Cameron is a fucking awful PM, but the very last thing this country needs is Labour in power again after the way Blair and Brown completely fucked us over in every way imaginable. And Ed Miliband is a weasel faced cunt. If he gets PM, I'll migrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 If they want to get into power ( and unlike Blair and co in 97 I don't think this lot has what it takes), they need to start talking up some decent real policies that are more than fiddling with numbers. No they don't. If Labour could usurp Milliband with someone with a shread of imagination and personality, then it's theirs to lose. Which is depressing cosidering their policies are made by a random word generator and that they are still riddled with failures and fiddlers from the last government. Keith Vaz is still out there offering his critique- shouldn't he be focusing on securing passports for Indian businessmen? What's Mandy up to these days? The Tories are being shown up on a lot of issues, Cameron is left of the party's power base and is clearly under pressure with the rightwards lurch during the reshuffle. Mitchell's rant has written at least one Labour election poster for them and it turns out that the crowding-out principle only works when there is actually some private sector activity to take the place of reduced public sector activity. Who could have seen that coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Ed Miliband is a weasel faced cunt. If he gets PM, I'll migrate. I'll bet you £100 you won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17252 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I'll bet you £100 you won't. Phil Collins did....and someone else...Jim Davidson?....to be fair reading Cabaye's posts he really is in that special bracket of people too, so I'd be careful about bandying your cash around HF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Tony Blair was elected in 97 on the basis Paul Daniels would leave the country as part of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CabayeAye Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I'll bet you £100 you won't. £100 would get me an upgrade from povo class to first class on my way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CabayeAye Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 What the fuck?! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19780692 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleeToonFan 1 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 What the fuck?! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19780692 Those horrid Buddhists clearly agitated the lovely, peaceful Muslims! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 People's thoughts on this new pension scheme that starts today. Seems like a good idea to get people into one as soon as possible and will obviously save future taxpayers ( our kids) a few pennies down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17252 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/pensionschemes/automatic-enrolment.htm To be fair, anyone starting out in working life with one of these has missed the boat by about 20 years, the poor fuckers. Our kids will have to/hope to benefit from the huge increase in property prices that their parents have benefitted from in the last 20 years for their pensions too, unless theres another bubble coming our way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 http://www.hmrc.gov....c-enrolment.htm To be fair, anyone starting out in working life with one of these has missed the boat by about 20 years, the poor fuckers. Our kids will have to/hope to benefit from the huge increase in property prices that their parents have benefitted from in the last 20 years for their pensions too, unless theres another bubble coming our way.... If more young people voted, this would be less of an issue. Old people are of little use to the economy, but have a huge sway in who holds office, so policies are directed towards them- just look how hard it is to remove bus passes, fuel discounts etc from wealthy retirees. It's like a social ponzi scheme, people keep putting in but eventually everyone will realise those at the bottom will have nothing to show for their contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 A full week of measly mouthed Labour promises from Balls and Milliband. Urgh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17252 Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) A full week of measly mouthed Labour promises from Balls and Milliband. Urgh! "all parties are the same" "narrative".... Edited October 1, 2012 by PaddockLad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 "all parties are the same" "narrative".... Agreed, but the opposition are always so desperate to get in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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