What if we'd lost World War 2

[NJS 4446]

No surprise there.

 

But hold on before more toontastic fairy folklore is written. I didnt overlook the holocaust

 

I asked what it would be like 60 years after wed being defeated in world war 2, 2 or 3 generations down the line.

 

Would we have been resistance lead country picking away like the sort of "warfare" we see from the Taliban or would the Germans have" won over" the masses as was their intention.

 

60 years on its quite possible we may have been a stalin type state, but its also possible that a European super power might have emerged, especially if they secured the oil fields of the middle east.

 

Anyway, could have been a canny discussion just a shame a few try to pain a totally different picture of the discussion.

Ok but you did somewhat make it sound like an "occupation" would have normalised after such a long while which is possible but there was a bit of ignoring the "nastier" side.

 

Obviously the Jewish population of Britain was a lot smaller than other parts of Europe but they and the other minorities would still have suffered.

 

 

I've always thought the last couple of years of the war (even post D-Day) were decided on a few "coin tosses" like the V2 programme which could easily have gone either way given slightly different timings - it certainly wasn't the clearcut triumph it's sometimes painted.

[Happy Face 29]

No-one gave CT any stick for his original question. There were book recommendations offered and a few short but sweet responses. It was only after a page and a half when he started on the "cracking empire" talk that he got people's backs up.

 

Ignoring that, I think fashion would have been much improved by a fascist victory.

[Tom 14021]

He either plays the victim or the fool. In exceptional circumstances, both!

[McFaul 35]

There'd be no ginger people knocking about that's for certain.

[Meenzer 15831]

Would we have been a Stalin type state?

Would we have been a Hitler type state?

Would we have been a Mussolini type state?

Would we have been a Tojo type state?

Would we have sung the songs that remind us of the good times?

Would we have sung the songs that remind us of the better times?

[Christmas Tree 4920]

Ok but you did somewhat make it sound like an "occupation" would have normalised after such a long while which is possible but there was a bit of ignoring the "nastier" side.

 

Obviously the Jewish population of Britain was a lot smaller than other parts of Europe but they and the other minorities would still have suffered.

 

 

I've always thought the last couple of years of the war (even post D-Day) were decided on a few "coin tosses" like the V2 programme which could easily have gone either way given slightly different timings - it certainly wasn't the clearcut triumph it's sometimes painted.

 

Not ignoring the nastier side at all tbh, in fact I said it would be grim. The main point though was to what it might be like now nearly 70 years after the war.

[Christmas Tree 4920]

No-one gave CT any stick for his original question. There were book recommendations offered and a few short but sweet responses. It was only after a page and a half when he started on the "cracking empire" talk that he got people's backs up.

 

Ignoring that, I think fashion would have been much improved by a fascist victory.

 

I think unfortunately you are have too much emphasis on use of the word "cracking" and used that one word to otherwise distort a post that was describing several possible scenarios, good as well as bad.

 

Someone as intelligent as yourself should be able to read that post and understand I was referring to some fictional post war leader turning the occupied "state" into a super power.

[Christmas Tree 4920]

He either plays the victim or the fool. In exceptional circumstances, both!

 

That leaves you free to Captain Snidey all to yourself.

[David Kelly 1280]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109779/?ref_=nv_sr_1

 

There you go CT. No need for any of that pesky reading!

[Christmas Tree 4920]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109779/?ref_=nv_sr_1

 

There you go CT. No need for any of that pesky reading!

 

 

Cheers for that.

 

Have a good watch of that tonight over a few beers. Even better that its got Rutger in. Used to love some of his films back in the 80's

 

*goes to see if hes still alive* (Rutger not Hitler)

[Christmas Tree 4920]

He is

 

Has a touch of the Ginolas about him.

 

[Monkeys Fist 43552]

This thread just gets better

[The Fish 11064]

Is this a reverse Godwin?

[David Kelly 1280]

He looks a lot like Hitlers idea of the master race in that photo too!

[David Kelly 1280]

Is this a reverse Godwin?

I think I did that with this fat bird I ended up with on Saturday night!

[Christmas Tree 4920]

I used to hate history at school but if I was going to go to uni now it would probably be the subject I would find most interesting.

[Monkeys Fist 43552]

There's a huge amount of reading, referencing sources, and a fuck load of essays involved.

Right up your street

[Tom 14021]

I think there'd be a group murder if people had to suffer CT in a seminar.

[Gemmill 47008]

"Reading list? Is there a documentary or a film I can watch instead?"

[Monkeys Fist 43552]

Today's topic: The Third Reich- Cracking or what?

[Christmas Tree 4920]

There's a huge amount of reading, referencing sources, and a fuck load of essays involved.

Right up your street

Well tbf if your at uni you have time for reading.

[Monkeys Fist 43552]

Well tbf if your at uni you have time for reading.

No, you absolutely don't.

[Andrew 4962]

given the subject of the sentence

 

YOU'RE!

[ewerk 31564]

Well tbf if your at uni you have time for reading.

 

Aye, because your days seem to be chock a block at the minute.

[Gemmill 47008]

CT you could do a lot worse than to listen to these Hardcore Histories podcasts that people have mentioned on here. I'm listening to one at the minute called Logical Insanity about the decision to drop the atomic bomb in Japan. Really good stuff.