Rayvin 5217 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Libertarian-ism has a lot to answer for as well in this. Entirely unsustainable in practice, there'd be hell on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 And less than three years til it all starts again! Can hardly wait! Some have already started with stuff like "I hope Cory Booker runs in 2020". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Some will benefit from Trump's plans but the white working class will not be among them, writes the FT's Martin Wolf https://www.ft.com/content/31b062e8-a842-11e6-8898-79a99e2a4de6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 The one area where he agrees with congressional republicans is tax policy, wolf writes. The highest-income taxpayers — 0.1 per cent of the population, those with incomes over $3.7m in 2016 dollars — would receive an average cut of more than 14 per cent of after-tax income. The poorest fifth’s taxes would fall by an average of 0.8 per cent of taxed income. To those who hath, it shall be given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Meanwhile, former head of the KKK David Duke, and author of Jewish Supremacism: My Awakening to the Jewish Question, celebrates Bannon's appointment, while thanking Assange for his role in Trump's victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I can imagine him pointing his finger at those who didn't make the final as he tells them, "you're fired" [tweet] [/tweet] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Love this attempted smear of Bannon with no clue of the origins. Establishment left, poodle loving, bed wetting, hysteria in full swing. #Amexit #Brexit #Frexit Edited November 16, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) New Chief of Staff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reince_Priebus Edited November 16, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30595 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Love this attempted smear of Bannon with no clue of the origins. Establishment left, poodle loving, bed wetting, hysteria in full swing. #Amexit #Brexit #Frexit He hardly needs the establishment to smear him when he's just been endorsed by David Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 He hardly needs the establishment to smear him when he's just been endorsed by David Duke. What's he done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 What's he done? Who? The former leader of the KKK? Or the former head of Breitbart news, the divisive, anti immigration news outlet which has been accused of promoting white nationalism while featuring some of the following headlines, among others, “Bill Kristol: Republican Spoiler, Renegade Jew,” “Trannies 49 Xs Higher HIV Rate,” and “Birth Control Makes Women Unattractive and Crazy.” Imagine if Paul Dacre had just received a top Westminster job. This is the same as that, if not even more alarming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Who? The former leader of the KKK? Or the former head of Breitbart news, the divisive, anti immigration news outlet which has been accused of promoting white nationalism while featuring some of the following headlines, among others, “Bill Kristol: Republican Spoiler, Renegade Jew,” “Trannies 49 Xs Higher HIV Rate,” and “Birth Control Makes Women Unattractive and Crazy.” Imagine if Paul Dacre had just received a top Westminster job. This is the same as that, if not even more alarming. That article wasn't comissioned by Breitbart, was written by a Jew and had nothing to do with Bannon. Thing is Gloomy this is a time when we all need to be more discerning. It's obvious to all that the rejected establishment and media are going to throw everything at Trump. We're being bombarded from all sides. There is push back against the establishment in Europe and America we have to accept this and we have to debate it and look at the reasons....Propaganda and smears aren't helpful. I find it wearisome that all resistance however misguided and its leaders somehow immediately become misogynists, anti-Semites or racists....It's laughable. Alt right is a propagnda tag the MSM have applied to everyone that doesn't agree with them. Like 'Coalition of the Willing'...These are propaganda terms or the much fabled 'international community'....These terms are to constitute consent without much soul searching. Everyone has a view and opinions it's healthy that these debates are carried out in the open so they can be challenged. There is a sort of reset going on. Accept it. Edited November 16, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15518 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I'm sure he'll do great things for the motorways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) I had a look at Brietbart last night and while fully confessing I didn't 'dig deep', it had literally nothing offensive posted on there. Some of the comments beneath certain articles were off kilter for sure, but the articles themselves are actually really lacking in any racial/bigotted substance. As in, the Daily Mail is far worse on a cursory glance. I've come across Milo Yannoupoulos before in my diggings around the internet - he seems to be one of the figureheads for the paper. He just carried out some kind of tour around American universities campaigning against feminism. He's a British guy educated at Cambridge (before dropping out) I gather. So yes, anyway. While Brietbart has some inflammatory headlines it seems, I wish to draw attention to some of the headlines we've seen from the Guardian in the past few years: Why I hate Men. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/nov/02/whyihatemen Women hitting men is not the same https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/18/solange-jay-z-beyonce-fight-assault-domestic-violence-men-women Feminists don't hate men, but it wouldn't matter if we did (presumably she hadn't read Bindel's article) https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/13/feminists-do-not-hate-men So how is the above different to Breitbart, save that some of the terms used aren't as on the nose? I suspect it is a platform for hate speech, but I'm not having the Guardian telling me that after their crusades in the ever divisive gender wars. Edited November 16, 2016 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 That article wasn't comissioned by Breitbart, was written by a Jew and had nothing to do with Bannon. Thing is Gloomy this is a time when we all need to be more discerning. It's obvious to all that the rejected establishment and media are going to throw everything at Trump. We're being bombarded from all sides. There is push back against the establishment in Europe and America we have to accept this and we have to debate it and look at the reasons....Propaganda and smears aren't helpful. Alt right is a propagnda tag the MSM have applied to everyone that doesn't agree with them and wants to discuss and use free speech (a right in America). Like 'Coalition of the Willing'...These are propaganda terms or the much fabled 'international community'....These terms are to constitute consent without much soul searching. Everyone has a view and opinions it's healthy that these debates are carried out in the open so they can be challenged. The media is doing its job. It's scrutisnising Trump's appointments and questioning what it means for America and the world. Just imagine, for a moment, that Nigel Farage is the new British prime minister; he was swept to power on a populist campaign, driven by divisive, anti immigration rhetoric. The media and large swathes of the country are worried about which of his outlandish campaign promises will translate into policy. Then he appoints Paul Dacre as his chief strategist. I'd be worried if such a scenario unfolded. This is basically what has happened in the states. I'd expect the legacy media to scrutinise the fuck out of it. It is not a smear or propaganda campaign ffs, you crazy bastard. Look at this guy's background for yourself. The reality is Trump had to appoint a right wing loonie to appease his grassroots support. It would have looked weird after his campaign if he's suddenly appointed a load of establishment republicans like his chief of staff. The interesting, or worrying thing, depending on how you look at it, is which of these two will wield most influence over the Donald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3892 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 He looks like a paedopile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 This is a source the holier than thou Guardian use. Well the AMC is an Al-Nusra front group ie Al Quaida ie on the American terror list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3892 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 This is a source the holier than thou Guardian use. Well the AMC is an Al-Nusra front group ie Al Quaida ie on the American terror list. So the Guardian uses a source which reports what is happening? Would you prefer them not to report what Al Nusra does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) The media is doing its job. It's scrutisnising Trump's appointments and questioning what it means for America and the world. Just imagine, for a moment, that Nigel Farage is the new British prime minister; he was swept to power on a populist campaign, driven by divisive, anti immigration rhetoric. The media and large swathes of the country are worried about which of his outlandish campaign promises will translate into policy. Then he appoints Paul Dacre as his chief strategist. I'd be worried if such a scenario unfolded. This is basically what has happened in the states. I'd expect the legacy media to scrutinise the fuck out of it. It is not a smear or propaganda campaign ffs, you crazy bastard. Look at this guy's background for yourself. The reality is Trump had to appoint a right wing loonie to appease his grassroots support. It would have looked weird after his campaign if he's suddenly appointed a load of establishment republicans like his chief of staff. The interesting, or worrying thing, depending on how you look at it, is which of these two will wield most influence over the Donald. Dacre is an establishment media force though. Barron isn't. Although I want to be clear here, I don't think he should appoint the guy either. I'm a bit concerned by what exactly he thinks he needs him for, and it's not like the guy has ever been in office. But then again, I'm no more concerned than I would be if he'd hired whichever sad individual heads up the Guardian these days. Ultimately, the media and those with media influence should be nowhere near political positions. Not when they still have an outlet. Presumably Brietbart is going to become a full on propaganda arm of the Trump office. Edited November 16, 2016 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 The media is doing its job. It's scrutisnising Trump's appointments and questioning what it means for America and the world. Just imagine, for a moment, that Nigel Farage is the new British prime minister; he was swept to power on a populist campaign, driven by divisive, anti immigration rhetoric. The media and large swathes of the country are worried about which of his outlandish campaign promises will translate into policy. Then he appoints Paul Dacre as his chief strategist. I'd be worried if such a scenario unfolded. This is basically what has happened in the states. I'd expect the legacy media to scrutinise the fuck out of it. It is not a smear or propaganda campaign ffs, you crazy bastard. Look at this guy's background for yourself. The reality is Trump had to appoint a right wing loonie to appease his grassroots support. It would have looked weird after his campaign if he's suddenly appointed a load of establishment republicans like his chief of staff. The interesting, or worrying thing, depending on how you look at it, is which of these two will wield most influence over the Donald. There is absolutely no factual basis for calling Bannon an anti-semite or racist. Really there isn't. You do know that the Tories were canvassing 'the racist' UKIP core to come over to their side after slamming them for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) So the Guardian uses a source which reports what is happening? Would you prefer them not to report what Al Nusra does? AMC is made up as is Syrian rights watch which is essentially a bloke living in a semi in Coventry UK. Edited November 16, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 AMC is made up as is Syrian rights watch which is essentially a bloke living in a semi in Coventry UK. The person who told you that made it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 https://off-guardian.org/2016/08/18/media-using-pro-al-nusra-media-center-as-source-for-war-propaganda/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 And Parky, you are the one with the wool over your eyes here. Not the other way round. If you live in obscure corners of the internet, dont be surprised that the whole alt-narrative turns out to be just another manipulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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