Renton 21620 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 You need to settle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) I agree with that. But don't think this couldn't be important if in some of the swing states Hillary lost votes to third party candidate because of this. Iirc the 2000 election came down to a few hundred strategically placed votes didn't it? If this had been the other way round, the AK47s would have been on the streets. Trump supporters have the mentality of Brexit voters taking their pens to the ballot box. They won't accept defeat and I fear for the US. He's actively encouraged it with some of his comments tbf, constntly talking about the "system" rigging the election against him, and how second amendment devotees might bear arms against her if she meddles with their rights. I'd pity America if he wins but even if he loses, it could be chaos. His supporters are among the most unhinged "patriots" conceivable. All you need to do is watch a montage of voxpops from one of his rallies. Edited November 7, 2016 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Yeah Trump's statements are on a similar level to the right wing press in this country and their ramblings about high court judges blocking brexit. Except arguably worse because Trump supporters have guns. On the plus side, all the polls seem to suggest that Hillary has this sewn up, and while I won't relish seeing her take power, it'll be a relief compared to Trump. The US will at least be in a holding pattern for a few years. Edited November 7, 2016 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Instead of the unknown abyss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I agree with that. But don't think this couldn't be important if in some of the swing states Hillary lost votes to third party candidate because of this. Iirc the 2000 election came down to a few hundred strategically placed votes didn't it? If this had been the other way round, the AK47s would have been on the streets. Trump supporters have the mentality of Brexit voters taking their pens to the ballot box. They won't accept defeat and I fear for the US. True, and it certainly could play a part. Comey is screwed if it does though. In fact he's probably screwed either way now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PqpoyOOzeQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) It's definitely not rigged. I remember when the machines used to be called Diabold (Diablo-Diabolic). Edited November 7, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Hey! You guys gonna vote for Hilary? No we're voting for the orange skinned, racist - wall builder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15525 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 It's definitely not rigged. I remember when the machines used to be called Diabold (Diablo-Diabolic). No you don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Park Life 71 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 The funniest thing to watch has been the Obama back flips with reg to him slamming Hilary in 2008 and now says she's cushty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 The funniest thing to watch has been the Obama back flips with reg to him slamming Hilary in 2008 and now says she's cushty... funnier than the video of trump fawning over the clintons from 2008? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 funnier than the video of trump fawning over the clintons from 2008? Him, his buddies and her husband spent a lot of time on that jet and on 'that' island innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 The biggest conspiracy of this election has been the emails story. In March 2015, the NYT broke the story that Hilary had used a private server. From there on in, the Republicans have tried to elevate this story to the point where people genuinely believe she should be in prison. What has driven this story, isn't the revelation of her use of the server, it's the secondary sub plot of leaked emails driven by whoever (Republicans, Russians, Trump himself, Anonymous Bernie fans). The leaks are not a coincidence though, they are designed to cut through the population just enough to raise distrust. If every politician's thought were exposed publicly then they would all stand accused of the cynicism and tricks that Clinton appears to engage in during her campaign. What surprises me is that it surprises people that our politicians behave cynically and in their own interests. Anyway, the manipulation here is from the right, not from be left as the only reason Clinton won't win because the strategy or manipulation of the email story has worked. I blame the MSM and the NYT for breaking the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) It's almost like the 'scandal' is front running 'the scandal'. "Yeah what we do is start a completely harmless scandal and we'll even get the FBI to play along"....Done. Edited November 7, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 Haven't seen anyone say they were surprised by any of the Clinton mails. From setting up her home server to the Podesta mails to the Weiner mails, it all very much confirmed whatever anyone thought of Clinton in the first place - good politician doing what all politicians do or liar doing what liars do. it only depended on your preconceived view of her. Many on the right have defended Clinton and circled the wagons around her to keep Trump from getting in and upsetting the status quo. See David Frum on Bill Maher Friday gone for example. Speaking of which, Maher has performed a mea culpa and taken back all he said about Bush, Cheyney, McCain and Romney to join the big elite party in the centre all getting along and agreeing nothing is worse than anything outside. It's a pretty disgusting thing to have done and bestows legitemacy on all the deeds previously perceived as evil by the left. https://ricochet.com/386562/honorable-men-disagreed/ The McCarthyite red scaring that both sides have engaged in is the most worrying thing in all this. Heightening tensions with Russia for short term political gain could have massive long term repercussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Haven't seen anyone say they were surprised by any of the Clinton mails. Chez's creating his own narrative here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 I think there's an important distinction to be made between the Trump campaign and the Republicans. Establisment republicans have kept quiet about anything and everything that has been revealed about Clinton, because they're all up to the same stuff by and large and she's only in the limelight because she's running. Trump has been able to elevate criticism beyond what would be reasonable, not only because he's an inept liar that will say anything about anyone who opposes him, but also because he's not a career politician that has used these methods his whole life and could be exposed for it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Crooked Hilary Lyin Ted Cruise Little Rubio Low Energy Bush These are all kill shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Hilary lead in polls in Virginia, Pennsylvania, Colorado and even North Carolina wiped out. I'm gonna build da wall.. Edited November 7, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Who's gonna win Parky? Is the world fucked either way? Are we gonna win the league cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Who's gonna win - Hillary Is the world fucked either way? - Yes, but less so than a world lead by TrumpAre we gonna win the league cup? - Hell no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Who's gonna win Parky? Is the world fucked either way? Are we gonna win the league cup? Trump. Yes. Liverpool. The establishment had everything set. Hilary had her campaign manager at Bilderberg, she had 500m campaign funds and 90% of the MSM on her side...It's weird watching the whole thing unravel. Edited November 7, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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