Howay 12496 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Well, I guess we'll see. Another 5 years of Neo-Liberal bullshit await, and it'll be interesting to see the lay of the land when it comes to the next election. Yeah, she's a standard politician tbh and that's what we'll see. I think there's so much venom to this election that she's likely to be a one-term president, despite that it'll be 8 years before any change on that front as we've seen what an anti-establishment bloke on the right looks like and it's not pretty and since she would be the standing president she would be the Dem candidate so the right will be the only source of that anti-establishment one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Well it was more about the fact that he has spent the last thirty five years as a professional politican and has a net worth of seven figures. His net worth is c.$500,000 as far as I can tell. But yes, I take the career politician bit. I'm not saying he was perfect but he ticked more boxes than Hillary. When I said specific before I meant specifically about her, there seems to be an almost personal dislike from what I can tell. Both her and bill are from exceptionally modest backgrounds to be president of the USA. Of course they're rich now compared to Joe Bloggs but they've done it off their own backs which surely is at least partly admirable? I guess you could accuse them of being from a political dynasty but again that's self made. I have nothing really against them personally. I thought Bill was ok to be honest, I'm rather surprised by a number of the things that have come out about him in recent weeks. But then, I thought he was ok about the same time I thought Blair was doing a good job. And now, years on, when I'm looking at where it's left us... I'm no longer so sure. Take the point on them being self made though, that's fair enough and indeed is admirable. Not sure it makes them beyond being bought or in other people's pockets though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22401 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Yeah, she's a standard politician tbh and that's what we'll see. I think there's so much venom to this election that she's likely to be a one-term president, despite that it'll be 8 years before any change on that front as we've seen what an anti-establishment bloke on the right looks like and it's not pretty and since she would be the standing president she would be the Dem candidate so the right will be the only source of that anti-establishment one. That's a good if depressing point. Of course if Parky is right we'll all be dead or post-apocalyptic zombies by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Think people are kidding themselves if they think the American establishment is ever going to hand power via elections or whatever back to the people. Edited October 18, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Yeah, she's a standard politician tbh and that's what we'll see. I think there's so much venom to this election that she's likely to be a one-term president, despite that it'll be 8 years before any change on that front as we've seen what an anti-establishment bloke on the right looks like and it's not pretty and since she would be the standing president she would be the Dem candidate so the right will be the only source of that anti-establishment one. Agree with Renton, this is a good point... Fuck. The right it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31587 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 His net worth is c.$500,000 as far as I can tell. But yes, I take the career politician bit. I'm not saying he was perfect but he ticked more boxes than Hillary. His pension alone is worth $1,000,000. Anyway, I don't want my leaders to be poor. I'd prefer them to be rich and successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 That's a good if depressing point. Of course if Parky is right we'll all be dead or post-apocalyptic zombies by then. Maybe it won't be so bad, the most depressing fact is when you think after those 8 years most of these Bernie supporters will be in their 30's and will be jaded enough by then not to be pushing for anything. We'll probably all be chipped and fucking robots by then mind and any anti-establishment thoughts would have us sent to the vaporizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22511 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Absolutely can't wait for the Clinton presidency now. You can't wait for World War III? Sick bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Maybe it won't be so bad, the most depressing fact is when you think after those 8 years most of these Bernie supporters will be in their 30's and will be jaded enough by then not to be pushing for anything. We'll probably all be chipped and fucking robots by then mind and any anti-establishment thoughts would have us sent to the vaporizer. I'm in my 30s and still livid there's hope for us all. Though I'll be 38 by then... I'd run for office myself but my TT posting history would be used against me i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 His pension alone is worth $1,000,000. Anyway, I don't want my leaders to be poor. I'd prefer them to be rich and successful. Why, does that make them less susceptible to corruption? Or does it somehow imply capability. I know a lot of very rich morons, all self made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'm in my 30s and still livid there's hope for us all. Though I'll be 38 by then... I'd run for office myself but my TT posting history would be used against me i think. I could be wrong aye, by and large though most of them will have calmed down about it by then and probably will have accepted it. Aye you're never running Rayvin . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 There are simple fixes aren't there? Limit on campaign donations, equal airtime, rules for broadcasters toward the end of the election cycle etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I wonder if I could spin it somehow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31587 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 So Trump's VIP guests tonight are Obama's half-brother and the mother of one of the Benghazi dead. Stay classy, Don. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 What does Obama's half brother have to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22401 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 He's a Trump supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) Is that it? Fair enough to Trump then, really. I mean, I can see why he'd have him there. I assumed he was a jihadist or something. Edited October 19, 2016 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4446 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Is that it? [emoji38] Fair enough to Trump then, really. I mean, I can see why he'd have him there. I assumed he was a jihadist or something. Boris-esque racism there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I meant for Trump to have brought him along, based on Trump's usual standards. My judgment was about Trump I'm surprised it's so mundane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22401 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I can't see it working for him since the brother is very African looking and sounding, and is from Africa. Also a failed politician, hopefully another thing they will have in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31587 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 And a foreign Muslim. That's right, a MUSLIM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31587 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 So exactly the sort of fella that Trump wants to keep out of the country. It looks to me that Malik just wants a bit of attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 It makes no difference now anyway, surely? I assume his polling is now in the gutter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35914 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 It makes no difference now anyway, surely? I assume his polling is now in the gutter? It certainly smacks of desperation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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