Holden McGroin 6581 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-36863008 Errrrrrr "I'd shoot them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35063 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 @@Happy Face Can you remember when you posted that poll analysis that called Obama's victory last time round about a year in advance (very accurately in terms of what states he would win iirc? I don't think they wavered at all in the run up even though others were predicting it would be close. I wondered what they were predicting this time round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30567 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I know Trump's, in many ways, the anti-establishment candidate but he's also everything many people say thay hate about politicians, i.e. all meaningless sloganism without any real substance. I still get the feeling he thinks he can say what he wants because he doesn't really believe he'll win. Aye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20115 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Saw a mate last night who now lives in LA. He said people are shitting themselves if Trump gets in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35063 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Didn't realise Stevie had emigrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15518 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaddockLad 17242 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Trump doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would do something if he thinks there's a chance of him being "the plucky runner up".... I think someone on here said at one of our recent elections that they'd be tempted to draw a massive cock and bollocks on the ballot slip.... If I was a US citizen in November that's precisely what I'd do... Hilary is as bad but for different reasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35063 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Would tend to agree re: Trump generally but feel it may have been a massive ego trip that's gotten out of hand. I doubt he thought he'd be selected as the Republican candidate when it all kicked off. Not a fan of Hilary either, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/22/donald-trump-speech-republican-national-convention?CMP=fb_gu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35063 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/22/donald-trump-speech-republican-national-convention?CMP=fb_gu I actually said similar to my lass this morning after seeing it on the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 He just wants to make Amerika great again. Think we need to cut him some slack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I actually said similar to my lass this morning after seeing it on the news. we're seeing troubling parallels with the 30s on both sides of the atlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17242 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/22/donald-trump-speech-republican-national-convention?CMP=fb_gu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 @@Happy Face Can you remember when you posted that poll analysis that called Obama's victory last time round about a year in advance (very accurately in terms of what states he would win iirc? I don't think they wavered at all in the run up even though others were predicting it would be close. I wondered what they were predicting this time round. I'd say you're looking for http://fivethirtyeight.com/ Superb analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 @@Happy Face Can you remember when you posted that poll analysis that called Obama's victory last time round about a year in advance (very accurately in terms of what states he would win iirc? I don't think they wavered at all in the run up even though others were predicting it would be close. I wondered what they were predicting this time round. @@Alex Adios is right, it was FiveThirtyEight got it spot on last time. They're currently wracked with doubt about their predictions as trump is defying them at every turn though. They gave him no hope whatsoever in the republican primaries. Nate Silver, their chief polling analyst, did a massive write up on where mistakes may have been made.... http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/ All that said, they call it 60/40 for Clinton right now... http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo But that's as close as they have had it, so the gap may continue to close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Trump says he doesn't want America to fight any more needless wars so that's probably him done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Trump says he doesn't want America to fight any more needless wars so that's probably him done. Really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) Clinton wants to go into Syria (get Assad) and then Iran that is big war. Fighting ISIS is and nicking oil is already happening. He's gonna find out if he ever becomes President that ISIS are using Western arms dropped to 'the moderates'.... It's why the Saudi's have been attacking him round the clock. ISIS and ALQ/Taliban are completely different entities. One uses drugs/slavery/rape and the other are against all those things. Infact the Taliban shut down Afghan opium production and of course NATO has gone in and made sure its tripled over the last few years. It's why the truce between ISIS and ALQ affiliates in Syria doesn't always hold and they fight each other. It's one of the reason Assad just about held on in the early days. ISIS is a pure creation of the Gulf states which are Western proxies with reg to back door destabalising of countries that the West doesn't like/want/have surpluses/no debt. See Libya/Syria/Iraq. Watch Erdogan. Edited July 23, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35063 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 @@Alex Adios is right, it was FiveThirtyEight got it spot on last time. They're currently wracked with doubt about their predictions as trump is defying them at every turn though. They gave him no hope whatsoever in the republican primaries. Nate Silver, their chief polling analyst, did a massive write up on where mistakes may have been made.... http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/ All that said, they call it 60/40 for Clinton right now... http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo But that's as close as they have had it, so the gap may continue to close. Tanks to de pair of yas tbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Would have thought Clintahn had it in the bag......But Trump seems some kind of force of nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) We voted brexit so all bets are off. Trump in the White House seems just as ridiculous so don't be surprised if it transpires. I remember people saying the same about dubya. The yanks tend to appoint a moron every now and then Edited July 24, 2016 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Surely all of his daft policies will just be voted down in congress by the people that really run America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 Congress hasn't been offered a vote on a war in decades. Presedential signing orders have become the norm. It works on short term things and new laws can't be passed like that i think, but certainly claiming a state of emergency what with all the Muslims and Mexicans and banning their entry shouldn't be too difficult.... Unlike the logistics of sending the existing Muslims and Mexicans anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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