Aeris 0 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Downing been told he can leave Liverpool QPR should load their money cannon and get him like. Downing is just another below average player on a monster-salary, perfect for QPR who just love spending senseless moneys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 So we should sell one left sided player who scores very few and makes even fewer for another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 93% pass completion percentage for Jonas on Saturday. Matched only by James Perch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Perch played well. Did the job Tiote should be doing when he's not trying to be xavi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1244 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Thought he was poor again generally. He did try to actually move forward in the second half though so that was an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubiousBobcat 0 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Probably about time we started Obertan ahead of Jonas now. He creates more chances and would also score a few more then Jonas. He also doesn't fall on his arse every time he gets challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTheBobby 1 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) I'll put your ass to shame. Where is Aerial Daddys Bell Tits anyway ? Edited December 23, 2012 by LoveTheBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieMark 0 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 You could probably count on both your hands the number of assists he has in those 2 and half seasons since promotion. I can probably give you 3 now and then I am struggling. The 2-0 win away at Birmingham, he set up both, and I think he set up Ba for the goal in the 2-2 with Spurs last season. Yesterday he got into some decent positions, he didn't seem to want to take the defender on. He got the ball in a few times and only really found Cisse at the back post once. To sum the above up; He works hard but what else does he actually bring? I don't expect him to be a Ginola or Robert etc, but howay man, put a few decent crosses in now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieMark 0 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Probably about time we started Obertan ahead of Jonas now. He creates more chances and would also score a few more then Jonas. He also doesn't fall on his arse every time he gets challenged. Agree. Marveaux deserves a chance too. Both quick, take people on, attacking. Obertan works hard too, he doesn't often get credit for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP 0 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Agree. Marveaux deserves a chance too. Both quick, take people on, attacking. Obertan works hard too, he doesn't often get credit for that. You're right about Obertan, but one thing I'd like to see more in his game is a bit more physicality. He's a big lad and would like to see him put himself about a bit more. Still quite young like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieMark 0 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 You're right about Obertan, but one thing I'd like to see more in his game is a bit more physicality. He's a big lad and would like to see him put himself about a bit more. Still quite young like. Yeah I'd agree, he has built up a bit in the summer, but he is still a bottler for the tackles. Tracks back and gets stuck in, just doesn't like it when he is the one being tackled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 0 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Jonas is infuriating me lately, it's like having a dog that you love but it really needs to be put down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonyTOON 10 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Was at the QPR game and he looks completely finished. He kills the play most of the time as his legs don't look up to it anymore. When he stops the ball, he allows defenders etc to get into position. We need someone on the left that will run at the full back. Would it make more sense to play Jonas at LB and put Santon at LM? Allow the link-up to continue, which does work, but 9/10 Jonas holds the ball up and allows Santon to run on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Where is Aerial Daddys Bell Tits anyway ? The 'fan' disappears whenever we win a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The 'wum' disappears whenever we win a game FYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 He was nowhere near as bad as people are making out. He's been getting this kind of shit for his entire stint at NUFC. At the moment he's not up to speed because he's knackered. He needs a rest but given our injury problems that's not an option as no-one else looks ready to take his place. Not even 30 yet ffs, his legs aren't gone yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Probably the worst game I've seen him play for us tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTheBobby 1 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The 'fan' disappears whenever we win a game That's it like - the magic 3-point repellant in action right there . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30544 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 He was nowhere near as bad as people are making out. He's been getting this kind of shit for his entire stint at NUFC. At the moment he's not up to speed because he's knackered. He needs a rest but given our injury problems that's not an option as no-one else looks ready to take his place. Not even 30 yet ffs, his legs aren't gone yet. That's my take on it. A lot of his game is based on his work ethic and he doesn't seem to have that lately. It's not age and if it isn't mental then he maybe just needs an extended rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubiousBobcat 0 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 He was nowhere near as bad as people are making out. He's been getting this kind of shit for his entire stint at NUFC. At the moment he's not up to speed because he's knackered. He needs a rest but given our injury problems that's not an option as no-one else looks ready to take his place. Not even 30 yet ffs, his legs aren't gone yet. So why is he 'knackered' then if he isn't yet 30 versus anyone else in the team? Based on Obertan's last few performances, I think he deserves a chance over Jonas. I actually like Jonas but he isn't our strongest player in that position anymore. I know the jury is still out on Obertan and I still need convincing, but I need more convincing on Jonas right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mincepie 0 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Jonas must be playing poorly if Obertan is put in instead of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 The Chronicle have a new feature, where by bull nut (he'll probably threaten legal action for calling him that) gives his marks out of 10 for player ratings, but also they publish the accumulative mark for what the fans give him out of 10 too. Ryder gives him 5, and the fans give him 7. I honestly believe that has been doctored, he made 14 crosses in the game, 3 were reached by a toon player first, he just has no quality at the moment. My theory is it was so obvious he had a bad game, Ryder has given him a five, and he's put 7 down for the fans view to make himself look better. Call me a conspiracy theorist but that's what I think. He needs 4 weeks rest now Jonas, he's offering bot all in an attacking sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Anita attempted more crosses than Jonas and only 5 of his were any good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeris 0 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) So why is he 'knackered' then if he isn't yet 30 versus anyone else in the team? Based on Obertan's last few performances, I think he deserves a chance over Jonas. I actually like Jonas but he isn't our strongest player in that position anymore. I know the jury is still out on Obertan and I still need convincing, but I need more convincing on Jonas right now. Jonas is playing shit, Obertan wants to convince and is fast so I really dont see why he shouldnt play... however, he's a right winger, we have to stop playing righ-feeted guys in left roles if they are meant to service our strikers. we only play lefty ben arfa on the right because he's decent with his right foot aswell and scores goals on his own, but he's injured. Edited December 25, 2012 by Aeris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I agree Aeirs. Now blow my horn biatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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