Dr Gloom 21847 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 you'd like to think they could sit around the table and sort something out that works for both parties, with both sides making some compromises. but our lot don't operate like that. it's their way or fuck all. they're punishing jonas for seeing his contract out because he wouldn't get as good a deal elsewhere. jonas is still a decent squad player. works hard. i thought he looked canny as a deep lying midfielder. suits his engine and work rate. his passing is neat and tidy and his piss poor crossing isn't exposed so much playing centrally. i reckon pardew thinks the same and would rather we held on to him. shows how much his opinion holds with his superiors. the fucking lapdog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 We missed Jonas in the second half of last season like. Fair enough he lacks goals and assists etc but he works hard & funnily enough he scares others into working hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 you'd like to think they could sit around the table and sort something out that works for both parties, with both sides making some compromises. but our lot don't operate like that. it's their way or fuck all. they're punishing jonas for seeing his contract out because he wouldn't get as good a deal elsewhere. jonas is still a decent squad player. works hard. i thought he looked canny as a deep lying midfielder. suits his engine and work rate. his passing is neat and tidy and his piss poor crossing isn't exposed so much playing centrally. i reckon pardew thinks the same and would rather we held on to him. shows how much his opinion holds with his superiors. the fucking lapdog. Agree, it's a shame they can't try and discuss him signing a 1 year deal without the extension trigger in it, even if it was for a little more money at least we'd get the use of the player. Seems a waste having him sat about doing fuck all, when like you and Tom have said he is a useful squad player to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAustin 0 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 If you are employed on a fixed term contract and then told you have to leave before the end of that contract and earn less money, what would you do. I see that as what is happening to Jonas. He's a work horse at best and has never set the league on fire, else he would have been sold for a profit. Fatman wants him of the wage bill as he doesn't figure in Pardews plans (whatever they may be, if he even knows himself, the cunt). Jonas can sit tight, earn himself a nice little nest egg and then toddle of home and play for his local team in Argentina for a couple of years and live like a king. The club is at fault not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) They could even offer him a 'golden handshake' and release him, he's been a good servant, this notion that they "have to be arseholes" is ridiculous. The club are acting appallingly. I bet treating his mate like this has got our club captain extra-motivated ahead of the new season. Edited July 23, 2014 by ClubSpinDoctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAustin 0 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 They are fucking minges though and would appear to be prepared to cut their noses off.................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2950 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 a 'golden handshake' and release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 `his passing is neat and tidy' Does that mean he finds his man no more than 10 yards away.If he wasn't on such big wages he would probably leave and move down a division but i cannot see him taking a 90% drop in wages to go to a club where he will get a regular game.I agree the club is to blame for putting that clause in his contract and with Pardew being Ashley's lapdog,he won't go to Ashley and say he wants Jonas in the team whatever the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Pardew has told Jonas, HBA and Obertan they can all leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAustin 0 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Shame for HBA, but no surprise for the other two, Obertan has been worse than useless. My mate from manc land actually laughed at me when we signed Obertan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1224 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Shame for HBA, but no surprise for the other two, Obertan has been worse than useless. My mate from manc land actually laughed at me when we signed Obertan.My dad described him as clearly the worst player he'd ever seen in a manure shirt. I'd now describe him as the worst player i've ever seen in a Newcastle United shirt who's played more than 10 games (obviously to exclude the likes of Fumaca and Rob McDonald who clearly weren't really footballers at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32826 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Pardew has told Jonas, HBA and Obertan they can all leave. That's good of him. I wonder if they all said, 'actually we'll just hang around for a bit, ta very much'. Also wonder what he told Ba, Remy, Dubuchy and Cabaye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 It makes you wonder what the scout saw in Obertans because i haven't seen anything in his game which suggests he is nothing more than a poor Sunday morning squad player,and only in the squad when the team are playing away due to him having a car .Him,Fumaca and Des Hamilton as a midfield 3. Not bad eh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If you haven't seen anything in his game which suggests he's nothing more than a sunday morning squad player then you must think he's good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Good for away games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Thanks for reading my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Thanks for reading my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jonas-gutierrez-training-alone-argentina-7579466 Training by himself in Argentina looking for another club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Sadly hes just an overhead now. The best thing for everyone would be for him to move on....probably Ben Arfa too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34913 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Him,Fumaca and Des Hamilton as a midfield 3. Not bad eh ? How about you, Bobby Davro and Joe Pasquale trapped in a lift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4721 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jonas-gutierrez-training-alone-argentina-7579466 Training by himself in Argentina looking for another club. He's been treated farily disgracefully, no good reason he shouldn't still be training with the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatty 24 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Probably given the choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peo 0 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I've been calling for them to move Jonas on for a while, probably like everyone else, but the manner of it is embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4721 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Probably given the choice. Doesn't sound like it from that article tbh. He's hardly been told anything other than get out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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