essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 As long as he doesn't turn up at SJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 #findjonas Long-serving Jonas Gutierrez, meanwhile, has not been seen on Tyneside since the start of pre-season training. The Gazette understands that Gutierrez – who spent the second half of last season on loan at Norwich City – has been told to find another club. The 31-year-old has a year left on his St James’s Park deal. However, Gutierrez – who has made 195 career appearances for Newcastle – is close to triggering a clause in his contract which would entitle him to a contract extension. And he has almost certainly kicked his last ball for United, though the club has made no comment on his situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I can see him extending his contract and sitting on his arse until it runs out.Who wants a midfield player who rarely scores or makes chances . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Why would the club extend his contract when he still has a year left and they already want to get rid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It looks like he can trigger a clause with one year of his contract left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30619 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Whatever his shortcomings he's one of the hardest working players we've had in recent years and didn't hide. It seems ridiculous that he doesn't sit down with the club and waive this extension trigger so he can concentrate on playing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30619 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It looks like he can trigger a clause with one year of his contract left I think you're entirely missing the point of the whole scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It looks like he can trigger a clause with one year of his contract left With five more appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It seems that whatever had to happen which would allow him to sign an extension has happened.Pav sat on his arse for the last 18 months of his contact so he could go on a free.He even came out and said so.Jonas will be on big bucks and he will know he will not get the same money if he signs for another english club.Hardworking,aye,i'll go along with that,but nowt else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 He's EXACTLY what pardew wants from his wingers isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It's a weird situation. Pardew used to love him. If he wasn't the owner's little lapdog bitch he might have tried to sort this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It's a shocking way to treat a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Thats been the problem.Pardew has wanted a hard worker on the left of midfield to help out our useless left back (s).Saying that,when Jonas has bombed forward,very little has been created from wide left,and even fewer goals from himself when he has cut in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It seems that whatever had to happen which would allow him to sign an extension has happened.Pav sat on his arse for the last 18 months of his contact so he could go on a free.He even came out and said so.Jonas will be on big bucks and he will know he will not get the same money if he signs for another english club.Hardworking,aye,i'll go along with that,but nowt else. No it hasn't An extension is triggered if Jonas plays 5 more games. He's not being played because the club are not interested in paying him the wage he's on beyond his current contract ending. Jonas is not asking his agent to renegotiate the terms of his contract to get him back on the pitch because he doesn't want to accept less money in the short term or the long term. Stupid clause to provide a player in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It seems that whatever had to happen which would allow him to sign an extension has happened. What are you basing this on? The rumour is that the club stop playing him in order to prevent him reaching the number of appearances that would have triggered a contract extension. Without the extension he still has a year to go but has been told to find another club as he wont get a game for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It's a shocking way to treat a player. Its the only way to treat a player who you dont want and who prefers to stay. You've played hard for the club, 190 odd games, the odd important goal, put the graft in and they then want you to find another contract with a probable pay-cut. Most people wouldnt accept the pay-cut, so the club can only be arseholes to try and get rid of the player. Not saying any of that is fair or what should happen to Jonas, just thats how the system of fixed-term contracts works in these circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) I'm only commenting on the post which i now know doesn't include the full clause.Sorry to have upset so many of my followers xxxx Edited July 23, 2014 by essembeeofsunderland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Its the only way to treat a player who you dont want and who prefers to stay. You've played hard for the club, 190 odd games, the odd important goal, put the graft in and they then want you to find another contract with a probable pay-cut. Most people wouldnt accept the pay-cut, so the club can only be arseholes to try and get rid of the player. Not saying any of that is fair or what should happen to Jonas, just thats how the system of fixed-term contracts works in these circumstances. Nah they don't have to be arseholes, bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30619 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 And the alternative is to hand him a further one year on £50/60k pw? It's a high price to be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Well then i can only assume that CSD's experience of employment contracts is limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Where's the money for the Hatem theme park?/!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Where's the money for the Hatem theme park?/!!1 Already under construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Jurassic Pork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 The alternative is to not put stupid clauses in contracts where you potentially have to be a cunt if you don't like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 The manager should be able to pick his players without considering contract implications. If jonas has appeared enough to trigger a clause then he's done so on the merits that the club committed to. They should be honourable. Not cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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