The Fish 10857 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 And a sister called Not enough cock for my tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Pardew also confirmed midfielder Jonas Gutierrez faces a spell on the sidelines with a knee injury after missing the Boxing Day game. "He will be missing the next two or three games," he said. "Gutierrez will have an injection in his knee tomorrow. It is not clearing up and he is not 100%." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Might not be guaranteed to start every game anymore after influx of new players but still an important player. You don't build a squad by getting rid of senior players every time you sign done new ones. I'm hoping Ashley has learned that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) Nobody really should be guaranteed or relied on to start. Santon and Jonas were expected to maintain form and fitness for an entire season as there were no back-ups. Jonas went through a really poor patch. He can now compete for LW and left of 3 in midfield. The way it should be. Santon has a new signing looking to take his place who has played regular football. Santon could also feasibly be competition for Debuchy if his form dips off. Much healthier. Edited January 25, 2013 by Barney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeris 0 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 He's reduced to a guy who can make great clearances but absolutely nothing else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Poor second half from him yesterday but I thought he did well in the first half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Jonas and Gouffran kept their wing backs pegged in their own half for the first 45. They both faded in the second, but there's a hell of a lot more to his game than that. His cross led to the goal from Cabaye for instance. Not a particularly brilliant cross, but it made an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 He's been getting a lot of stick but its easy to overlook all of the clearances he made throughout the game. Loses the ball too much though as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldstott 0 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 He's been getting a lot of stick but its easy to overlook all of the clearances he made throughout the game. Loses the ball too much though as well. This. Jonas used to be an outlet, in fact Jonas was our best outlet. Give him the ball in a tight space and he'd either beat a man or hold up the ball or win a (usually dubious) free kick. At this point in time we're not able to rely on him for this. He's bereft of confidence as the two hideous miscontrols in the second half demonstrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Pardew seemed to be talking to him the most a the end when he came on the pitch to congratulate the players. He's clearly one of his favourites, vice captain and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 With Gutierrez in the team P20 W6 D 6 late* Without P4 W0 D0 L4 CT was banging this drum for ages until he missed a few games and we got even worse. No surprise he's starting to bang that drum again because Jonas had a few disappointing touches in the second half. *one of those losses was to West Ham when he only managed 25 minutes, and we weren't losing when he went off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Maybe Pardew was talking to him after he lost his temper after that horrible challenge, raking down the back of his legs. That was a horrible challenge that went completely unpunished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 No surprise he's starting to bang that drum again because Jonas had a few disappointing touches in the second half. I haven't mentioned him have I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I haven't mentioned him have I? Why else did you bump a month old thread with a pic of a thinner version of yourself then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 Why else did you bump a month old thread with a pic of a thinner version of yourself then? 5 days ago, NOT "after a few second half touches". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 5 days ago, NOT "after a few second half touches". Point still stands. Credit due for his assist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6587 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 With Gutierrez in the team P20 W6 D 6 late* Without P4 W0 D0 L4 CT was banging this drum for ages until he missed a few games and we got even worse. No surprise he's starting to bang that drum again because Jonas had a few disappointing touches in the second half. *one of those losses was to West Ham when he only managed 25 minutes, and we weren't losing when he went off. To be fair, I think you said in the match thread he should be hauled off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 To be fair, I think you said in the match thread he should be hauled off. I did. To be fair, that's not saying he's finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6587 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 He offers nothing to the team at the moment. The amount of times he was overlapped yesterday and didnt help Santon was crinimal - if you're saying he is in the team to give us defensive cover/workrate. And where has his powerful trademark runs gone? You could guarantee a couple of excellent runs down the wing which brought a foul in the opposition and this relieved a bit of pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6587 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) I did. To be fair, that's not saying he's finished. True. You can throw facts around but he has been playing absolutely dreadful this season. If you'd never seen him play before you'd think he was 4th tier player. Thats not to say he is finished of course. Most players have a dreadful patch. Edited January 30, 2013 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 games 160 goals 9 assists probably less than goals scored. Why has he always been a regular ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubiousBobcat 0 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 So the excuse before was the 'he is knackered' which I though was bollocks at the time. He has had his 'break' and is worse then before. What excuse are we giving him this time then if he isn't finished? I dont dislike Jonas, he comes across as a decent bloke but good things come to an end and he is finished in this league IMHO. Why Pardew persists with a player so clearly poor on match day is baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 So the excuse before was the 'he is knackered' which I though was bollocks at the time. He has had his 'break' and is worse then before. What excuse are we giving him this time then if he isn't finished? I dont dislike Jonas, he comes across as a decent bloke but good things come to an end and he is finished in this league IMHO. Why Pardew persists with a player so clearly poor on match day is baffling. Setting aside that I don't agree with your assement of him, who would you have played instead of him last night (or in the last couple of games for that matter)? Maveaux was injured, Obertan should never be allowed anywhere near a shirt, Sammy is a headless chicken and Fergusson is short of quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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