The Fish 10855 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Not read this, so excuse any repetitions. Sissoko needs dropping for a while, he did absolutely nothing and showed no desire to do anything. Terrible. Dummett's inexperience (and possibly a lack of ability) was exposed for both goals, but I can't be too harsh on him as I don't think it's fair to have a pop at the 5th choice centre back in a game like this. Kid Williamson gifted possession time and time again, he's ok alongside a better centre back, but he cannot be the lead centre back again. Thanks for avoiding that Centre back that was available for nowt Ashley, dodged a bullet there didn't we? League 1 Remy was feeding off scraps all game, because Sissoko was a passenger and we failed to take hold of the midfield until he was pushed wide, however when he did get the ball he did nothing with it. Disappointing. Gouffran did nothing wrong, but he didn't do anything right either. Anonymous Krul couldn't really do much for either goal, so I can't really have a go at him. Average Both Santon & Debuchy played well, but their final balls weren't great, again I think this is as much down to poor forward play as failings on their part. Driving Ben Arfa had another quiet game but still looked more dangerous than most. Moments Cabaye was all right especially when we moved from a midfield 3 with Sissoko. Decent. Tiote had another good game, rarely lost his head, but was another player let down by his team mates. Captain. Pardew - I was pleased he changed things when they weren't working and I was pleasantly surprised when he brought Cisse on as that showed attacking intent (even though the gamble didn't pay off), but he isn't getting commitment from the players, we're still clueless at set pieces (attacking and defending) and we're still a 45minute team. If it wasn't obvious that the replacement would be worse I'd say this game was the turning point for me. The subs (Cisse aside) did all right. (By that I mean they didn't do anything that bad) Edited October 27, 2013 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 You're wrong about Tiote imo. Continues to lose the ball, dive, kick people, think he's xavi etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 You're wrong about Tiote imo. Continues to lose the ball, dive, kick people, think he's xavi etc. Agree. He was pretty decent up till the last 20 minutes, lost it after that. The needless giving away of freekicks. Then failing to clear the ball in dangerous areas and trying to hold onto it as if he's, like you say, Xavi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULSTER MAG 0 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Tiote and Cabaye the only players that can come away with any credit from an attacking point of view, Remy and Gouffran did nowt, HBA offered very little until moved out left. Cisse, less said the better. Tin hat on here, I would rather see Shola up top, simply for his hold up play, with HBA and Remy playing off him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Good post there Fish, it is worrying that we're a 45 min team tbh. I've no idea what is wrong as we have good players on the books but they never really turn up together, some do one game but then don't bother the next. It's just tough watching other teams players work hard every game, even when they get completely outclassed they still work hard and don't roll over, whereas our team tend to just roll over and take a drumming and when we are against a lesser side we never effectively step up and control the game. Pardew really needs to sort himself out as it's all embarrassing, he's what worries me the most tbh as players like Sissoko and Cisse looked incredible when they first come yet now look very poor (cisse especially). I mean watching Sissoko today I'd never believe you that he burnt Ashley Cole for pace and put two past Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 In comparison to some of our other players Tiote did ok. Still wanted too much time on the ball, but played his position which is half the battle with him post season one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Tiote was our best player today and our best player last weekend. If the challenge on Altidore by Tiote was a foul, then Fletcher jumping on Dummett was also a foul. Sour grapes mebbies, but the ref got it wrong there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 2m #nufc believe coverage of Mike Ashley protest march was too harsh. Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 2m #nufc have banned @EveningChron from SJP and all media facilities. Alan Pardew refused to take any questions after defeat v #safc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 You're wrong about Tiote imo. Continues to lose the ball, dive, kick people, think he's xavi etc. 83% pass completion, highest on the team Highest number of ball recoveries (5) highest number of fair tackles (4) Highest number of interceptions (4) committed 4 fouls, none in the same league as Cabaye's yellow card, also suffered the most fouls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Tin hat on here, I would rather see Shola up top, simply for his hold up play, with HBA and Remy playing off him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 83% pass completion, highest on the team Highest number of ball recoveries (5) highest number of fair tackles (4) Highest number of interceptions (4) committed 4 fouls, none in the same league as Cabaye's yellow card, also suffered the most fouls Which is what makes that moment or two of pure stupidity so frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Tiote was our best player today and our best player last weekend. If the challenge on Altidore by Tiote was a foul, then Fletcher jumping on Dummett was also a foul. Sour grapes mebbies, but the ref got it wrong there. Agreed, Altidore also got the free kick when he dived under pressure from Dummett, up the other end 5 minutes later Cisse went down under actual contact and told to get up. Fletcher was climbing all over Dummett for the first in all. Probert gave in to the home fans today, thoroughly depressing that we have to look to things like this shows how poor we were. Like I've said we didn't deserve any points from that but they got some big gifts from the ref, especially the Fletcher one he bottled that for sure. Edited October 27, 2013 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Which is what makes that moment or two of pure stupidity so frustrating. My point is that to say he's always giving away the ball, diving into tackles and thinking he's Iniesta, isn't backed up by the evidence. The foul he committed that lead to Borini's winner was on the halfway line. Williamson, Dummett and Cabaye could all have done something about it before the ball hit the back of the net. Even by committing another foul just so that we could regroup. This is like people on Twitter having a go at the Ameobi brothers. As if the damage had not already been done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 83% pass completion, highest on the team Highest number of ball recoveries (5) highest number of fair tackles (4) Highest number of interceptions (4) committed 4 fouls, none in the same league as Cabaye's yellow card, also suffered the most fouls Gave away the free kick that led to their goal, turned his back, moaned and forgot there was actually a game of football still going on. Last week he lay down in our box, got up and had a jog back onside 2 goals, 2 games. And people are saying these are his 2 best games for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Gave away the free kick that led to their goal, turned his back, moaned and forgot there was actually a game of football still going on. Last week he lay down in our box, got up and had a jog back onside 2 goals, 2 games. And people are saying these are his 2 best games for us Did I say he couldn't have done better for Borini's? No, I just said that you saying he always gives the ball away, dives in, kick people and think he's Iniesta is cliched bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17245 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 2m#nufc believe coverage of Mike Ashley protest march was too harsh.Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 2m#nufc have banned @EveningChron from SJP and all media facilities. Alan Pardew refused to take any questions after defeat v #safc So he's either been told he's sacked or he's going to see Ashley now to be told?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 My point is that to say he's always giving away the ball, diving into tackles and thinking he's Iniesta, isn't backed up by the evidence. The foul he committed that lead to Borini's winner was on the halfway line. Williamson, Dummett and Cabaye could all have done something about it before the ball hit the back of the net. Even by committing another foul just so that we could regroup. This is like people on Twitter having a go at the Ameobi brothers. As if the damage had not already been done? We were caught out, it was a silly challenge. Im not blaming Tiote for the defeat, he was better than most, but he never seems to learn that there are times when you just cant give stupid free kicks away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Did I say he couldn't have done better for Borini's? No, I just said that you saying he always gives the ball away, dives in, kick people and think he's Iniesta is cliched bollocks. Is it fuck, I've watched him do it every time he's played for the past 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Did I say he couldn't have done better for Borini's? No, I just said that you saying he always gives the ball away, dives in, kick people and think he's Iniesta is cliched bollocks. Xavi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Is it fuck, I've watched him do it every time he's played for the past 2 years Aye right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Xavi fine, "Alonso" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 So he's either been told he's sacked or he's going to see Ashley now to be told?... Why would Ashely do that? We are tenth. Thats more than good enough for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 So he's either been told he's sacked or he's going to see Ashley now to be told?... More likely that he's toeing company line, though it's not like there isn't already plenty of fuel on the fire of Ashley's discontent with Pardew and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Good reply, he played half decent last week but still cost us 2 points. Why exactly was he dropped prior to that? Remind me again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11364 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 2m #nufc believe coverage of Mike Ashley protest march was too harsh. Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 2m #nufc have banned @EveningChron from SJP and all media facilities. Alan Pardew refused to take any questions after defeat v #safc Lee Ryder @lee_ryder3m The ban was agreed by Joe Kinnear, Alan Pardew, Lee Charnley, John Irving and the club Press office. #nufc Says it all really..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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