trophyshy 7083 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) You can get home improvement loans to do this and the Fits will (partly) pay off the loan, but once the loan is cleared you'll make significant savings. Spend to save, innit. http://www.money.co.uk/loans/home-improvement-loans.htm CT what is the width and depth of your house? Edited September 29, 2013 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42456 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 CT what is the width and depth of your house? XXXL x Staggeringly Shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 You can get home improvement loans to do this and the Fits will (partly) pay off the loan, but once the loan is cleared you'll make significant savings. Spend to save, innit. http://www.money.co.uk/loans/home-improvement-loans.htm CT what is the width and depth of your house? I would say about 9 metres by 7 metres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 XXXL x Staggeringly Shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On your south facing roof do you have any velux or dormers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 On your south facing roof do you have any velux or dormers? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) I've made some assumptions however the figures are underrated by at least 20% so it'll roughly balance out. Your roof is probably large enough to fit a full 4kw system, 16 panels. These would give you a payment in year 1 of around £500. This is RPI linked for 20 years so will climb, over the lifetime of the Fits you will receive around £16,500. That's an average annual payment of £825. Your savings in the first year on electricity are estimated at £230, it could be more than this as it is assumed you will use just half the power you produce. If you're smart about it and run high energy devices in serial between 10 am and 2 pm then you could do better than this figure. Assuming electricity prices continue to rise at 8.9% per annum (historical average over the last 12 years) then your savings over 25 years (this is the length of the guarantee on all panels these days) on electricity are estimated at £19,500. Of course you will continue to make electricity beyond this time. Giving you a total return over 20/25 years of about £36k. If you could get the kit fitted for around £7k, then you clear £29k or, put another way, a government backed return of about 23% on your investment. Impossible to achieve elsewhere with no risk. Edited September 29, 2013 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 I've made some assumptions however the figures are underrated by at least 20% so it'll roughly balance out. Your roof is probably large enough to fit a full 4kw system, 16 panels. These would give you a payment in year 1 of around £500. This is RPI linked for 20 years so will climb, over the lifetime of the Fits you will receive around £16,500. That's an average annual payment of £825. Your savings in the first year on electricity are estimated at £230, it could be more than this as it is assumed you will use just half the power you produce. If you're smart about it and run high energy devices in serial between 10 am and 2 pm then you could do better than this figure. Assuming electricity prices continue to rise at 8.9% per annum (historical average over the last 12 years) then your savings over 25 years (this is the length of the guarantee on all panels these days) on electricity are estimated at £19,500. Of course you will continue to make electricity beyond this time. Giving you a total return over 20/25 years of about £36k. If you could get the kit fitted for around £7k, then you clear £29k or, put another way, a government backed return of about 23% on your investment. Impossible to achieve elsewhere with no risk. That sounds a no brainer tbf. Nice work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 CT no harm, you couldn't finish a project to stick down a bit of grass in your back garden, harvesting the power of the sun to power your new bread machine/george foreman/whatever is reaching to far for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44888 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 That sounds a no brainer tbf. Nice work. Just don't move house for the next 20 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) That sounds a no brainer tbf. Nice work. Go for nuclear mate... Swedish CT? http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/swedish-man-caught-trying-to-split-atoms-in-his-kitchen/story-fn5fsgyc-1226107942427 Edited September 29, 2013 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Just don't move house for the next 20 years! I don't intend too but I must say it wouldn't put me off buying a house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Just don't move house for the next 20 years! Well at least until you've achieved payback, but yeah this is really best for people who have no plans to move for at least 8-10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Go for nuclear mate... Swedish CT? http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/swedish-man-caught-trying-to-split-atoms-in-his-kitchen/story-fn5fsgyc-1226107942427 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44888 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Well at least until you've achieved payback, but yeah this is really best for people who have no plans to move for at least 8-10 years. Aye the wife's mate at work has had planning permission on her extension refused, so they're having to move and she can't take them with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 But wouldn't the panels be regarded as an asset added to the value of the house? Must admit, I'm sceptical about the value of solar in this climate. Do the panels protect your roof or have any detrimental effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) But wouldn't the panels be regarded as an asset added to the value of the house? Must admit, I'm sceptical about the value of solar in this climate. Do the panels protect your roof or have any detrimental effect? It's not believed they add any value to the house directly, but if there are two for sale on a street and one comes with free electricity and a paycheck then that will sell first. Assuming it's not Ewerk buying. Solar panels work well in diffuse lighting and even in northern Scotland people have been taking advantage of Fits. The panels will protect your roof and are very tough themselves, they survive golf balls fired at them at 120kmh to simulate severe hail. Edited September 29, 2013 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 It's not believed they add any value to the house directly, but if there are two for sale on a street and one comes with free electricity and a paycheck then that will sell first. Assuming it's not Ewerk buying. Solar panels work well in diffuse lighting and even in northern Scotland people have been taking advantage of Fits. The panels will protect your roof and are very tough themselves, they survive golf balls fired at them at 120kmh to simulate severe hail. It's not believed they add any value to the house directly, but if there are two for sale on a street and one comes with free electricity and a paycheck then that will sell first. Assuming it's not Ewerk buying. Solar panels work well in diffuse lighting and even in northern Scotland people have been taking advantage of Fits. The panels will protect your roof and are very tough themselves, they survive golf balls fired at them at 120kmh to simulate severe hail. If the other one comes with a family who'll tie you to a truck, he'll be in a real pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 A number of councils are doing schemes to install efficient energy. Some solar and some air to water heat pumps. It makes sense as for council owned property the payback is worth it. I assume the council get a FIT and the occupant reduced energy bills. No FIT for the air to water (yet) but they cut bills massively especially in areas using oil for heating. is there away of finding out if my council property is in the list for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Give them a call Deadman and they'll tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/sep/30/ikea-sell-solar-panels-uk-stores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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