Alex 35913 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Tell you what like, Jenas had everything but the heart and temperament to be one of the best midfielders in the league, if not Europe. Such a shame really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Sir Bobby pretty much said the exact same thing in his autobiography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4370 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Compare Colback to Bowyer/Smith if you must, useless headless chicken runners extraordinaire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7312 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Colbacks favourite pass is a one touch pass back to whoever passed to him. Pretty much the biggest waste of time in a match unless you're doing it from a throw in. Probably makes his stats look good though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The problem with Colback is more that him and Hayden are a shocking partnership (especially when we have a left winger who isn't exactly flying down the flank). Colback has been adequate when paired with Shelvey because they clearly compliment each other more. Hayden is a lot better than Colback but in this division, used in his right way, Colback is fine. Unfortunately we've found out to our cost in the last few games, that we don't have adequate cover for Shelvey. Actually I think this has been evident throughout the season because generally in the games we've lost, Shelvey hasn't been able to dictate and we've needed another option that we haven't had. Which is another reason why people have wanted to see us play another striker. Otherwise will have taken note of our struggles without Shelvey and do more to neutralise him. We need a plan B pronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I think we need shelvey B more than we need to start concentrating on other formations/styles before perfecting the managers favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31586 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Players with Shelvey's vision and passing range aren't easy to come by. And won't be happy to sit on the bench. So we'd need someone with his skills and also able to play in another position on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7787 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Nicky Butt never hid. Bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7312 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I appreciate this window is hard to do business in but we've been shite since December without Shelvey, Reading could be 3 points behind us tonight and we still haven't addressed the glaring lack of creativity in our team. The club should have been breaking their backs to have a deal in place for the first day of the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I appreciate this window is hard to do business in but we've been shite since December without Shelvey, Reading could be 3 points behind us tonight and we still haven't addressed the glaring lack of creativity in our team. The club should have been breaking their backs to have a deal in place for the first day of the window.The majority support Ashley now man. We're a club on the up. Everything had changed. ... Not sure why we still aren't breaking ground on the training facility upgrade mind. And not sure why there's been no fans forums. Or why nust haven't been readmiitted after a dialogue was promised at the last one. And not sure why we've heard no more about the deal for sports direct to pay for their advertising. And I know the club debt has increased by more than a quarter although we made £30m profit in the last transfer window. ... But Ashley has learned his lessons and there's no need to worry about Rafa getting all he needs whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31586 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-team-coming-to-dads-funeral-made-it-the-best-moment-of-my-life-2nc8f5q77?shareToken=5c852c723a7994bf930ba3b7c7070ad3 A non-Newcastle piece this time but a good read about Knockaert. Seems like Hughton has again succeeded in creating a fantastic squad spirit down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Players with Shelvey's vision and passing range aren't easy to come by. And won't be happy to sit on the bench. So we'd need someone with his skills and also able to play in another position on the pitch. This is a fair point. The alternative being we get someone in on loan (youngster with ability or some such). It's not looking like very much at all is going to happen at this point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35913 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Bullshit He was one of the few players who took responsibility at that time, despite not really being able to create and looking shit as a result. You disagree, but you're fucking wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17940 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 He was one of the few players who took responsibility at that time, despite not really being able to create and looking shit as a result. You disagree, but you're fucking wrong. The reason he looked so fuckin shit at Cardiff v manu is he was the only one in midfield that day not hiding He wasn't great in any way for us but cowardice isn't really him iyam. There again, he did fuck off to Birmingham for a season..he probably knew what to expect the next season from the err "more emotional" elements of our support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-team-coming-to-dads-funeral-made-it-the-best-moment-of-my-life-2nc8f5q77?shareToken=5c852c723a7994bf930ba3b7c7070ad3 A non-Newcastle piece this time but a good read about Knockaert. Seems like Hughton has again succeeded in creating a fantastic squad spirit down there. Yes he's got a good thing going there. I think team spirit is the one area they've got the edge over us - they seem to be able to come back from going a goal down and manage to eek out draws and narrow wins, which is normally the mark of a good spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Top bloke tbh. He's done a cracking job there, seems to be good at creating a good team atmosphere, at least he did that here and Brighton anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22510 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Gets us promoted first time of asking, safely in mid table half way into first season back, sacked and replaced by pardew.#mikeashleylogic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Saw a few people suggesting he had Norwich almost relegated... actually, he kept them up first season and they were outside the relegation places when he got the sack. Given the limitations of their squad I wouldn't deem that a failure of any kind. Great man and great manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4966 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Saw a few people suggesting he had Norwich almost relegated... actually, he kept them up first season and they were outside the relegation places when he got the sack. Given the limitations of their squad I wouldn't deem that a failure of any kind. Great man and great manager. They've not exactly got better for him leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11068 Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Saw a few people suggesting he had Norwich almost relegated... actually, he kept them up first season and they were outside the relegation places when he got the sack. Given the limitations of their squad I wouldn't deem that a failure of any kind. Great man and great manager. Norwich supporting mate thinks he's a nice bloke, but the football was poor and wasn't working. Don't think they hate him or anything, just one of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31586 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 They were five points clear of the relegation spots when they sacked him. After that they got one point from fives games and went down. It was one of the worst managerial decisions of recent seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14229 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 They were in total relegation form IIRC. My dad was working in Norwich at the time and they really don't think much of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11068 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 Quote GEORGE CAULKIN july 5 2017, 12:00pm, the times Difficult Newcastle owner providing Benítez with reassurances Newcastle United’s training ground at the beginning of this week. As Rafa Benítez and his players reassembled for pre-season, catching up on gossip with the medical and fitness staff, swapping anecdotes about their summer holidays (not that the manager took one), there was the usual array of emotion; anticipation about the club’s return to the Premier League, excitement at the sense of possibility, pent up energy and nerves. There was also something else, too, something which explains the strange mood which has hung around the club since their promotion in May, an easing of tension which has built and itched and niggled away. It felt like relief. After a testing, barren few weeks, which has seen transfers stall and logjam, Benítez was back on the grass, doing his stuff, finding percentages, seeking improvement where others would focus on flaws. On Monday evening, when Florian Lejeune turned up to complete his £8.7 million signing from Eibar, there was another exhalation. Lejeune’s arrival was belated, but at least he was there, the 26-year-old centre half - who can also play in midfield - agreeing a five-year contract and becoming Newcastle’s first new addition (Christian Atsu had already joined from Chelsea, but was on-loan at St James’ Park last season). Lejeune’s transfer had been described as “close” by a well-connected Newcastle source four weeks earlier. Benítez and his recruitment team had done all the groundwork, identifying the player, establishing the cost of his release clause, all the niceties that can be worked on. The same applied to a loan for Tammy Abraham, Chelsea’s England Under-21 striker and Willy Caballero, the goalkeeper, who was out of contract at Manchester City. Benítez believed that each player was prepared to move to Tyneside and that tentative arrangements were in place. After a meeting with Mike Ashley in May, Newcastle’s owner had said that the Spaniard could have “every last penny that the club generates through promotion, player sales and other means in order to build for next season,” but that is not the same as writing the cheques or sending the decisive emails. Having given his first list of names to Lee Charnley, the managing director, Benítez sat and waited. And then began to stew. Nothing happened. Chelsea moved for Caballero, Bournemouth and then Swansea City began courting Abraham. Benítez had been eager for a deal to be sorted before the Under-21 European Championship, but that deadline came and went. And then Abraham went to Swansea. From Benítez’s perspective, it was avoidable. Edginess in transfer windows is not a new phenomenon, but what applies to most clubs has been magnified at Ashley’s Newcastle. Historically, part of that can be explained by the shape of their hierarchy - the limited power of the manager or head coach, the influence wielded by Graham Carr, the chief scout - and also by their transfer policy, the requirement to source younger players, often foreign, with a view to finding worth. Benítez’s arrival blurred that. He has the final say on transfers. Carr, who should have been given a graceful exit a year ago, has now gone. And if there is still a desire that Newcastle should find value, then he has no problem with that. But it remains a strange club, with a strange way of doing things, reflecting Ashley’s unpredictability. And there is a feeling that Charnley has been caught in the middle, appeasing above and beneath him as much as making decisions. When Ashley, previously an absentee landlord, suddenly turned up for matches in January, accompanied by the marginalised Carr, Benítez was bewildered, particularly when the sportswear retailer did not speak to him. Benítez asked for new players to propel Newcastle towards promotion; none came. When Newcastle went up, days went by before Ashley called to offer his congratulations. It made for unease. In the background, there have been other complications, other sources of confusion, from the HMRC raid in late April which saw Charnley arrested and then released without charge, the involvement of Julian Barnes, a lawyer and long-time Ashley “fixer”, in financial and strategic matters at St James’, to the story - which disappeared into thin air - that there was Chinese interest in a takeover of Newcastle. If this presents a wholly negative view of Newcastle, then it is unfair. Benítez remains hugely popular with supporters, a manager of genuine calibre who thinks of his club in terms of stature and potential, rather than crushed by limitation, or drained of vigour, as it had been under Steve McClaren. To have a man defined by winning things at the head of a club allergic to silverware still feels transformative. It also feels delicate. Benítez has worked at Liverpool, Chelsea, Read Madrid, Inter Milan; few understand the machinations of football better than him. He knows about politics. Reports in Sunday newspapers a couple of weekends ago that the 57-year-old had become disillusioned were well-sourced and reflective, but were also a warning to Newcastle. The question is how much Ashley will have noticed and how he would respond. Benítez is realistic. His concern is that the Newcastle team which came up is not equipped to compete in the Premier League and he does not want to be embarrassed at Anfield, Stamford Bridge or anywhere else. Even consolidation will take effort and although club directors will always tell you that no transfer is straightforward - and Newcastle’s squad requires trimming - opportunities have been missed. As much as Newcastle need players - Benítez has no substantive interest in Manchester City’s Joe Hart, nor in Sam Clucas or Kamil Grosicki of Hull City, who have all been mentioned as potential targets - it also about relations and whether they can remain viable. Benítez is not an easy manager, but then neither was Kevin Keegan. Nor are José Mourinho and Pep Guardiola. They demand. They push. Good owners know when to listen, when to push back. The problem at Newcastle is that second-guessing Ashley is fraught with peril. He is not an easy owner. He can disappear for months and then take an interest, put pressure on Charnley for sanctioning a transfer that has not worked out. Disquiet then ripples outwards. It is why this week has brought some reassurance, players training again, the manager coaching. But at Newcastle, at this Newcastle, the itch is always there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35913 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Ashley is such a cunt. Let no one forget that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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