Kevin Carr's Gloves 3706 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Who thinks we have a good first 11 capable of creating chances and scoring goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10422 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Who thinks we have a good first 11 capable of creating chances and scoring goals? If the 1st team is Krul Debuchy Colo Mbiwa Santon Sissoko Cabaye Ben Arfa ----------------- Gouffran Remy Cisse I think we've pace, creativity and goals, if it's not, we don'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1205 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I don't have any worries that team is decent. I remain to be convinced we have a manager who can get them playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4433 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I don't have any worries that team is decent. I remain to be convinced we have a manager who can get them playing well. Plus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 We have a decent first 11. We've a poor/unproven second 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3706 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 If the 1st team is Krul Debuchy Colo Mbiwa Santon Sissoko Cabaye Ben Arfa ----------------- Gouffran Remy Cisse I think we've pace, creativity and goals, if it's not, we don'. I would not be unhappy if Anita replaced Cabaye in some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 HBA cannot be expected to create all the chances so i expect Cisse to again shoot from any angle and distance and laugh whenever he blasts well wide.With Gouffran and Santon on the left,very few crosses will come in from that side.If HBA picks up an injury,it will be back to last season,few chances and few goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty84 0 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 We have a decent first 11. We've a poor/unproven second 11. Agreed, as I'm sure most would. While our first team is defiantly stronger than this time last year, our second is weaker with the departures over the summer and no replacements. Really looking forward to seeing our attacking intent over the coming games, hopefully they keep injury free and we can have a run of games for them to gel together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21280 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 We have a decent first 11. We've a poor/unproven second 11. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6816 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Krul Santon Colo Mbiwa Debuchy Cabaye Anita Sissoko Ben Arfa Cisse Remy Subs: Gouffran Marveaux Tiote Taylor Elliot Jonas Sammy/Shola/BigiRaylor Edited September 6, 2013 by TheRollingStones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4433 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 If the 1st team is Krul Debuchy Colo Mbiwa Santon Sissoko Cabaye Ben Arfa ----------------- Gouffran Remy Cisse I think we've pace, creativity and goals, if it's not, we don'. Anita in the middle for me with Gouffran dropped and 433 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 One left footer in the team and he plays on the right.Why not pick HBA on the left-ish because Debuchy can deliver on the right then hopefully we will create more chances for the front two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6816 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 We have a decent first 11. We've a poor/unproven second 11. The club website only lists a senior squad of 20 so we don't even have a proper second 11! The remaining 5 are probably taken up by the likes of Vuckic, Dummet, Campbell, Shane, Tavernier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Fairly decent first 11 yes but very very thin on back up players to cover any injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6816 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 One left footer in the team and he plays on the right.Why not pick HBA on the left-ish because Debuchy can deliver on the right then hopefully we will create more chances for the front two. Did you see his goal last week? That's why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Agree with the 4-3-3 with Anita ideas. It should definitely be given a try, it's not like any of the systems last season came off particularly well. I can't see Gouffran and Ben Arfa as our wide midfielders providing any kind of defensive support. Also RollingStones makes a good point re. Ben Arfa - how many goals did he score cutting in from the right on his left foot in the last few months of the 11/12 season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10422 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Anita in the middle for me with Gouffran dropped and 433 Like this? Krul Debuchy colo Mbiwa Santon Anita Cabaye Sissoko Ben Arfa Cisse Remy I'd be worried about the space on the wings for fullbacks, but yeah it's not a bad formation, probably best to do that at home though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16505 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Who thinks we have a good first 11 capable of creating chances and scoring goals? Seeing as we're only 3 games into the season isnt it a bit difficult to answer that question? We can only base it on last seasons evidence, meaning the answer is no, in as much as the team suffered lots of injuries, the younger players weren't good enough when given a chance, there was little time to spend proper time drilling the first team due to the demands of Europe well into April etc etc... All you can say for certain is we've got a talented squad on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1205 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I don't even think the second 11 is that bad. Elliot, Haidara, Dummett, Saylor, Williamson, Anita, Tiote, Marveaux, Jonas, Shola, Sammy. Obviously that team would struggle to say the least but even with our injury record, the likelyhood of that team ever playing a competitive match is virtually zero. You would worry that there's not a massive amount of goals there though. I know we want to see ourselves with a squad that can compete up at the very top of the league but that isn't going to happen. But compare our squad to that of any team outside Manure, Citeh, Arsenal, Chelski, Spurs, Liverpool and Everton and it will compare well overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4433 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Interesting to note for prosperity btw that most people's first 11 does not include Taylor, Tiote and Jonas. I only note this because all three would still be in Pardews first 11 and it could be that Lady Luck has contributed to all 3 being absent and Pardew stumbling on a first 11 that just might click. (Before it gets to October and he claims the credit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10422 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Interesting to note for prosperity btw that most people's first 11 does not include Taylor, Tiote and Jonas. I only note this because all three would still be in Pardews first 11 and it could be that Lady Luck has contributed to all 3 being absent and Pardew stumbling on a first 11 that just might click. (Before it gets to October and he claims the credit) There's a huge difference between wanting Gouffran to start ahead of Jonas, and demanding that ANYONE start ahead of Jonas. There's a huge difference between wanting an impressive Mbiwa to start ahead of Taylor and wanting ANYONE to start ahead of Taylor. There's a huge difference between wanting an improving Anita to start ahead of a cinsistently faltering Tiote and wanting ANYONE to start ahead of Tiote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4649 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 There's a huge difference between wanting Gouffran to start ahead of Jonas, and demanding that ANYONE start ahead of Jonas. There's a huge difference between wanting an impressive Mbiwa to start ahead of Taylor and wanting ANYONE to start ahead of Taylor. There's a huge difference between wanting an improving Anita to start ahead of a cinsistently faltering Tiote and wanting ANYONE to start ahead of Tiote. or indeed anyone but santon http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/34134-newcastle-v-fulham/#entry1187825 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21280 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I don't even think the second 11 is that bad. Elliot, Haidara, Dummett, Saylor, Williamson, Anita, Tiote, Marveaux, Jonas, Shola, Sammy. Obviously that team would struggle to say the least but even with our injury record, the likelyhood of that team ever playing a competitive match is virtually zero. You would worry that there's not a massive amount of goals there though. I know we want to see ourselves with a squad that can compete up at the very top of the league but that isn't going to happen. But compare our squad to that of any team outside Manure, Citeh, Arsenal, Chelski, Spurs, Liverpool and Everton and it will compare well overall. it's not that great on paper. we'll see like over the course of the season but it looks weak to me. there are a few unproven kids in that second string alongside at least a couple of proven donkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6816 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Interesting to note for prosperity' btw (Before it gets to October and he claims the credit) Posterity you tit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15111 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Posterity you tit Maybe he's going to bet on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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