Meenzer 15358 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 you're over simplifying Meenzer................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15358 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Could be.................................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34774 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21793 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 so a US drone has taken out Jihadi John. he was just was the media face, not the Islamic State leader, plus he'll have his virgins waiting for him in the after life so it's a lose lose, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34774 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Some geezer gives a talk at the Brookings Institute got a book out and all that.....Isis expert and then he says, "Yeah we have to empower the Sunni's to throw off the yolk of Isis". Clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15358 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Some geezer gives a talk at the Brookings Institute got a book out and all that.....Isis expert and then he says, "Yeah we have to empower the Sunni's to throw off the yolk of Isis". Clown. He needs to stop egging them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Obama and co begging Putin to call off the airstrikes. /Unreal. Something about moderates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21793 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 essential viewing: 5 minute video analysis of why there's no end in sight to the proxy war in syria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgi9tz3IZWQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21793 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 you have to laugh, or you'd cry http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/syria-same-20151116103884 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) The vid is alright bar the Assad Sarin attack which nobody now believes. It was pretty much the Turks behind it to get America into the war. They don't mention the Qatar/Turk gas pipeline which is one of 'our' main goals there. Edited November 16, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 So who are the Palestinians backing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34774 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 So who are the Palestinians backing The mackems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2948 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 From someone on Facebook For anyone who may be confused by what's going on in Syria and the wider Middle East...... President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels (who are good) started winning (Hurrah!). But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State ( who are definitely bad!) and some continued to support democracy (who are still good.) So the Americans (who are good) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good. By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS ( which is a good thing ) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter. Getting back to Syria. So President Putin ( who is bad, cos he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium poisoned sushi ) has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad) which is sort of a good thing? But Putin ( still bad ) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good). Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria. So a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad. Now the British (obviously good, except some freak called Corbyn who, incidentally wears a corduroy jacket, which is dead give away as that's never good) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (who are super bad). So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS (but let’s face it, drinking your own wee is better than IS so no real choice there) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them Good. America (still Good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin (now good) and that nice mad Ayatollah in Iran (also Good) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now Bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only constantly bad group). To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as Good (Doh!) Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (mmmm... might have a point) and hence we will be seen as Bad. So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad) many of whom are looking to IS (Good / bad) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also Good) and Putin (also, now, unbelievably, Good) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started? I hope this makes things a little clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21793 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15358 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 very good (but bad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Weren't we arming "rebels" in Syria not so long ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21793 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 yup. the whole situation there is so fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 So now we're mates with Assad? I thought I'd been 1984d but aye, I thought we'd armed the buggers in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21793 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) the west armed isis, formerly known as the rebel group fighting assad. the reality is, there's not going to be much other than misery for the people living in syria, regardless of whichever bunch of cunts end up running the show there. there's a whole load of fucked up people with fucked up ideologies, killing each other, and not much in the way of infrastructure after years of fighting and bombs. i wouldn't hang around here either, tbh Edited November 17, 2015 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 They've known about Isis since 2012 for sure there are vids around about it that FOI reveled the Americans discussing the 'Calipahte' way back when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21793 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Meanwhile in Donald Trump Land, even his supporters look dumbfounded at how he says he'd deal with Isis as president https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aWejiXvd-P8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30218 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Bomb every inch of the country then steal their oil. Well at least he's being honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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