Tooj 17 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 There was an argument on facebook about whether or not British TV could make Breaking Bad which ended when somebody pointed out he would have just got the treatment on the NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Well old misery chops here wasn't impressed. A very cliched end with all the boxes ticked and no doubt keeping most of the fans happy. I still think that Ozymandias was a superb brutal ending and such a great show didn't need the Hollywood style tie up. Sad it's over So you wanted:- Skylar imprisoned for Walt's misdeeds Flynn a homeless orphan due to Walt's misdeeds Holly a homeless orphan due to Walt's misdeeds Hank dead due to Walt's misdeeds Marie widowed due to Walt's misdeeds The Nazi's to escape with tens of millions Badger & Skinny Pete to get nothing Jesse to be held perpetual prisoner in tortuous conditions Walt (who caused all this misery) to leave with his money to himself but to die off screen from his cancer in a couple of months Wheras the professionals who created the show decided it should be.... Skylar gets a deal to walk free with millions of dollars coming to her soon Flynn gets to keep his mam and sister and has millions coming his way too Holly gets to keep her mam and brother and has millions coming her way too Hank dead due to Walt's misdeeds Marie widowed due to Walt's misdeeds The Nazi's wiped out Badger & Skinny Pete get a few thousand each to enjoy Jesse wins his freedom Walt (who caused all this misery) is killed, while redeeming himself to some extent Why you no write one of the greatest US tv shows in 30 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I got a bit carried away and shouted out "GERRIN!" when Walt was on the phone to Lydia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22712 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 that was one scene that wasn't really needed i thought - the close up of the ricin going into her drink told you everything you needed to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31652 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Also, if I was being really critical, the whole bit about Walt having the car keys taken off him and then trying to get them off the pool table failed to build any sort of tension for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4941 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 So you wanted:- Skylar imprisoned for Walt's misdeeds Flynn a homeless orphan due to Walt's misdeeds Holly a homeless orphan due to Walt's misdeeds Hank dead due to Walt's misdeeds Marie widowed due to Walt's misdeeds The Nazi's to escape with tens of millions Badger & Skinny Pete to get nothing Jesse to be held perpetual prisoner in tortuous conditions Walt (who caused all this misery) to leave with his money to himself but to die off screen from his cancer in a couple of months Wheras the professionals who created the show decided it should be.... Skylar gets a deal to walk free with millions of dollars coming to her soon Flynn gets to keep his mam and sister and has millions coming his way too Holly gets to keep her mam and brother and has millions coming her way too Hank dead due to Walt's misdeeds Marie widowed due to Walt's misdeeds The Nazi's wiped out Badger & Skinny Pete get a few thousand each to enjoy Jesse wins his freedom Walt (who caused all this misery) is killed, while redeeming himself to some extent Yes, hadn't I made that clear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Yes, hadn't I made that clear? You should watch requiem for a Dream. That's ridiculously dark to the point of comedic too. You'd enjoy it. I think that would work as an excellent season finale. Not as a series finale though. Basically saying at the end of it all Walt ran away. Which is a total cop out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14286 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 I got a bit carried away and shouted out "GERRIN!" when Walt was on the phone to Lydia. That was ridiculous "Aye, Lydia, it's Walter, pet. Walter White. Aye, looka, I poisoned you this afternoon, soz. Tra" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Also, if I was being really critical, the whole bit about Walt having the car keys taken off him and then trying to get them off the pool table failed to build any sort of tension for me. Agreed. Time was obviously a factor though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1306 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 that was one scene that wasn't really needed i thought - the close up of the ricin going into her drink told you everything you needed to know.Don't think it was in there to tell you that Walt had killed her as (as you say) that was completely clear. It was more to do with Walt making sure that she knew that he'd killed her. The worst of it really was Walts plan to kill the Nazi's. Given that he was trying to convince them he had another way for them to make the Meth, he was more than a bit lucky that they chose to have the meeting with him in the room they did and that they were all stood up (or none of them managed to hit the deck) rather than them taking him to where Jessie was cooking. Whilst I can believe that Walt was more than capable of creating the devise that he used he was always going to be banking on a shit load of luck for it to work. Not that this spoilled it in the slightest for me but if you're looking for holes that's the major one for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4941 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 You should watch requiem for a Dream. That's ridiculously dark to the point of comedic too. You'd enjoy it. I think that would work as an excellent season finale. Not as a series finale though. Basically saying at the end of it all Walt ran away. Which is a total cop out. I understand why they did it etc etc and as I've said, it satisfies most no doubt. I just think the last two episodes were writing by numbers rather than the superb stuff that led up to them. Sometimes it's nice to think well what happens next, what about this one or that. Ie Sopranos left everything wide open. This was too nicely tidied for me. (Maybe it's worse for me having thought I sat through "the ending" two episodes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22712 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 not you to take the contrary view CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22712 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 i haven't read a bad review anywhere and i have agree. the whole thing was bloody brilliant from start to finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4941 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 not you to take the contrary view CT Hardly a contrary view when I stated it two weeks before the finale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47433 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 CT man. What a ring piece. The man who loves Criminal Minds picking holes in the writing on Breaking Bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Hardly a contrary view when I stated it two weeks before the finale Aye, boxed yourself in a bit with your mistaken thoughts on when it was ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4941 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Aye, boxed yourself in a bit with your mistaken thoughts on when it was ending. I might be in the minority but I'm not alone. From the Los Angeles a Times "But given everything that Walt had been through, and put us through, over these 62 episodes, I think I might have preferred the whole package be wrapped in a bow that wasn't so tight...It's a more cathartic, upbeat conclusion than if the series had ended with Walt getting into Robert Forster's van or living alone in that snowy cabin, but is it ultimately a more fitting one for this series?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22712 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Hardly a contrary view when I stated it two weeks before the finale You're the only person on the internet that didn't like it. You're the only Newcastle fan on the internet that reckons mike Ashley is a football genius. You're the only person on the internet that can lose weight while eating curry pasta followed by a 10 egg omelette and Ferraro rochets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7352 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Only bit I didn't like about the finale was how Walt explicitly told that woman he had poisoned her. It was already implicit with that last shot when she was drinking her tea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4941 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 You're telling porkies porky, if you're going to quote do it properly i read that one the other day, it was from some site called hitsfix or something, the LA Times had a list of quotes from a host of sites, the vast majority of which contradicting that one http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-breaking-bad-finale-reviews-20130930,0,6224291.story?page=1 Mary McNamara, the Los Angeles Times: “Not only did Vince Gilligan's five-season, hyper-violent prose poem to midlife male frustration tie up virtually every loose end in sight, it contained the Holy Grail of all storytelling: an Actual Moment of Truth. And not just this particular story's truth, but one that extended to the beloved and bloated genre Gilligan both elevated and mocked.” Alessandra Stanley, the New York Times: "Perhaps the best thing about the finale of “Breaking Bad” is that it actually ended. So many shows, notably “The Sopranos” and “Lost,” have gone dark without anything approaching finality. Here, the writers were so determined to not leave unfinished business that the last episode was called “Felina,” an anagram of finale. And almost every loose end was tied. In some cases, a little too tightly, and in others, not quite as much." I'm not sure of your point. I agree with the critic (regardless if he doesn't work for the site it was printed on), that it was all neatly tied up with a bow / cherry on top. I also accept my view while correct, is in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7856 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I loved Lydia's phone call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1306 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I loved Lydia's phone call.Me too. It was a fuck you to her rather than an explanation of what went on. Altough I'm sure there are a fair few americans that needed that confirmation despite it being as plain as day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The Breaking Bad Insider Podcast is a canny listen as Vince Gilligan and other crew members are on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty84 0 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The Breaking Bad Insider Podcast is a canny listen as Vince Gilligan and other crew members are on it. Listened to the last one today. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of this, can't believe I haven't heard any of them before. Really think I might go back and listen to them all at least for season 4 / 5. Loved hearing about his old scripts / original concepts for plots. Makes me want to buy the box set to see all the extra's, its gotta be filled with some great stuff for such an amazing series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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