catmag 337 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10074881/Mum-talked-down-Woolwich-terrorists-who-told-her-We-want-to-start-a-war-in-London-tonight.html Sounds like there were some amazing women there today. What a horrible mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Little to do with Islam and more to do with 'his home nation being like that because of us' if what he said there is to go by, but we're not at war with any African nations was my point like. We're dropping bombs in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan and the Philippines at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7076 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If an Islamic extremist is shouting Praise be to God then it probably does have a little but to do with Islam tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If an Islamic extremist is shouting Praise be to God then it probably does have a little but to do with Islam tbf Where is that account? No mention of God/Allah in the first hand account Cat mag linked to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7076 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 There's video footage on twitter of them shouting it whilst being handcuffed. In fact it's all over the news wherever you look! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7076 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 According to senior Whitehall sources the people carrying out the attack were heard to say: "Allahu Akbar [God is Great]", BBC political editor Nick Robinson reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP 0 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) So fucked up. You must be mentally ill to think that that act benefits any cause in any way (and I'd include the EDL supporters in that statement, who are using the events as a pivot). It's butchering a person man, a fucking human being. Edited May 22, 2013 by ADP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21746 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 It's got everything to do with the perceived global 'brotherhood' of Islam. I can't think of an equivalent with any other religion, and its one reason that stuff like this will be never ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Little to do with Islam and more to do with 'his home nation being like that because of us' if what he said there is to go by, but we're not at war with any African nations was my point like. Err yeah, because the way we carved up Africa along with the rest of the colonisers has in no way contributed to some of the problems it has. I have no idea if that was an influencing factor in this horrible, unjust crime but let's face it, this country has been conquering, pillaging and policing the rest of the world for centuries. Due to the fact we're quite good at it there are basically no "just" ways that anybody can inflict what they see as adequate revenge/justice on Britain if they are motivated to do so. After the Boston bombings someone on here expressed incredulity that Americans could be so naive as to wonder why anyone would target them. Well this country has just as much if not more blood on its hands and while that's not my fault, or your fault, or this poor soldier's fault, there are plenty of people out there who don't give a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 There's video footage on twitter of them shouting it whilst being handcuffed. In fact it's all over the news wherever you look! I can only find the ITV one on YouTube. Linkage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22023 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Nothing to do withIslam and more to do with thick fucking animals whipped into a frenzy by some mental preaching cunt who should be fucked to death with a razor covered dildo. the muslim community really need to do more about it. these brain-washing hate preachers need to be condemned - and not just by outsiders. it's sickening to think again, like 7/7, this is someone that may well have been born, or at least raised here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7076 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I can only find the ITV one on YouTube. Linkage? Seriously? Every media outlet in the western world is running this story and the associated videos. Out sky news on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21746 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I can only find the ITV one on YouTube. Linkage? Try reading the BBC news website HF. Are you suggesting this attack wasn't inspired by Islam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7076 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 the muslim community really need to do more about it. these brain-washing hate preachers need to be condemned - and not just by outsiders. it's sickening to think again, like 7/7, this is someone that may well have been born, or at least raised here. Plenty of Muslims have condemned them. You can't blame an entire community for 2 nutters. It's got fuck all to do with 99% of Muslims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Try reading the BBC news website HF. Are you suggesting this attack wasn't inspired by Islam? I'm in bed on my phone. I've seen the bit where he apologizes that women have seen it, but says women see much worse in his country because of our government. The fact that our government bomb and kill people in his country therefore seemed to me to be the motivating factor. The fact we are bombing Muslim countries means that when there is retaliation, of course its likely to come from Muslim individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22023 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Plenty of Muslims have condemned them. You can't blame an entire community for 2 nutters. It's got fuck all to do with 99% of Muslims the actions of these nutcases will be condemned in evening news bulletins by muslim leaders but the hate preaching at the grassroots level in muslim communities continues. and it's the muslim community's responsibility to do more to weed out these brainwashing fuckers and expose them for what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7076 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 No it's not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21746 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Err yeah, because the way we carved up Africa along with the rest of the colonisers has in no way contributed to some of the problems it has. I have no idea if that was an influencing factor in this horrible, unjust crime but let's face it, this country has been conquering, pillaging and policing the rest of the world for centuries. Due to the fact we're quite good at it there are basically no "just" ways that anybody can inflict what they see as adequate revenge/justice on Britain if they are motivated to do so. After the Boston bombings someone on here expressed incredulity that Americans could be so naive as to wonder why anyone would target them. Well this country has just as much if not more blood on its hands and while that's not my fault, or your fault, or this poor soldier's fault, there are plenty of people out there who don't give a shit. Or of course more likely it is just a symptom of extremist Islamic thinking and really fuck all to do with our colonialist past. After all, how many Christian Africans are hacking people's heads off in London in broad daylight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7076 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) Are you a Christian? Are you on a crusade to root out paedophile priests? Edit. Gloom Edited May 22, 2013 by TheRollingStones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP 0 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 the muslim community really need to do more about it. these brain-washing hate preachers need to be condemned - and not just by outsiders. it's sickening to think again, like 7/7, this is someone that may well have been born, or at least raised here. http://www.mcb.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2333:pr-template&catid=40:press-release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 According to senior Whitehall sources the people carrying out the attack were heard to say: "Allahu Akbar [God is Great]", BBC political editor Nick Robinson reported. Whitehall do not want you to consider that their foreign policy of warmongering prompts a response which puts us citizens in danger. Far better for you to take it from them that these nuts have no grievance other than a religious one. I wouldn't believe a Whitehall source over live video and eye witness statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22023 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 No it's not it really is. too many parents are aware of this sort of thing going on and not doing enough to help stop it until it's too late and yet more kids that might have turned out to be alright are brainwashed. it's absolutely the responsibility of the moderate muslims to educate their kids correctly and out these fuckers for what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21746 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I'm in bed on my phone. I've seen the bit where he apologizes that women have seen it, but says women see much worse in his country because of our government. The fact that our government bomb and kill people in his country therefore seemed to me to be the motivating factor. The fact we are bombing Muslim countries means that when there is retaliation, of course its likely to come from Muslim individuals. So you think that the fact Muslims tend to be responsible for this 'retaliation' is just a statistical association and not something more fundamental. That is, you don't believe these crimes are religiously rather than politically motivated? Just to be clear, is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22023 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 http://www.mcb.org.u...0:press-release i'm talking about doing more to stop the radical preacher's that probably inspired the attackers, not the attacks themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7076 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 That's not what you said though. It's also bigoted to suggest the majority of Muslims aren't bringing their offspring up to be law abiding well balanced folks. I work with a lot of Muslims. None of them are terrorists as far as I can tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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