Dr Gloom 21924 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I imagine Ferguson would have had a say in this appointment. They're cut from the same cloth - both dour scots -and with Fergie in the background, Moyes is likely to bounce ideas off him. Couldn't see Mourinho taking well to the press asking him what fergie thought of his tactics. Seems the main reason they've gone for him is his longevity at Everton. They want another manager in for the long term where mourinho would probably have fucked off after a couple of seasons. Moyes is totally untested at this level though - got to wonder if he can handle the pressure, or if the Man U fans will stay off his back if he employs similar negative tactics to how he's worked with Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 They've ignored such things as experience and trophy winning and just focused on the accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 They've ignored such things as experience and trophy winning and just focused on the accent. You have to look at the context. Everton are a small club in modern football to get them top 10 nine times is a major achievement, to have a good side at that club is a major achievement. He'll have no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I think he'll do fine. The biggest hurdle to over come will be the short term form. If he hasn't won the league in his first couple of seasons, the knives will be out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8700404/ Dave Whelan spot on for once that Everton aren't big enough to have a top manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17275 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Moyes has been managing a football club up till now.... hes got to go from that to managing a "global branding recepticle" whose shares are worth (all this is according to 5live's "wake up to money" programme this morning) in the region of £2 billion, with £54 million having been wiped off its value since baconface uttered "thats all folks" this time yesterday. Thats his biggest problem iyam, if hes shite he will get less time as its such a big concern now it will be a case of "results or get tae fuck". Ferguson got 4 years to win a trophy for a football club...it would appear that Moyes will be measured very differently..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 They'll be the same as Chelsea, Man City, Madrid and Barca now. One trophyless season and they'll replace the manager. There isn't a manager on the planet that would have the good will Fergie built for himself at that club. Moyes might win a trophy or two...but it won't last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 You have to look at the context. Everton are a small club in modern football to get them top 10 nine times is a major achievement, to have a good side at that club is a major achievement. He'll have no problems. Allardyce got Bolton finishing in the top 8 for 4 consecutive seasons but couldn't cut it with us and most likely couldn't cut it with a top club. It'll be him that has to adapt rather than the players and that'll be the real test for him. It's refreshing though to see a club the size of Man U appointing a British manager who has paid his dues at a smaller club rather than going for the usual European candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33234 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I am saying now he won't last a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 What's the odds on man u finishing outside top 4 next season and not getting to knockout stage of champions league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP 0 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) That'll be Fellaini and Baines off in the summer then... To Man Utd? Edited May 9, 2013 by ADP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Rooney officially wants away, it'll be a combination of money and http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7433144.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I am saying now he won't last a season. He'll get time from the board, Fergie will see to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH 0 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Rooney officially wants away, it'll be a combination of money and http://news.bbc.co.u...ter/7433144.stm He'd reportedly already asked to leave before being aware Moyes was coming in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 He'd reportedly already asked to leave before being aware Moyes was coming in That'll be the face saving official party line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 They've made up since then. I'd say it's more to do with him not being the main man at the club and getting dropped for the 2nd leg against RM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Not often I feel a tiny bit sorry for scousers but SSN have just said that Mark Hughes has said he'd be interested in going to Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Just interviewed 5 cunts outside OT and only one of the fuckers was a Manc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Fucking Hell As much as Man United might have been enjoying a long Holiday with Ferguson I hadn't processed the fact Everton have had a spell in the sun with Moyes. Anyone employing Mark Hughes must be insane* *Que Twitter...He's better than Pardew man!!11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 They'll be the same as Chelsea, Man City, Madrid and Barca now. One trophyless season and they'll replace the manager. There isn't a manager on the planet that would have the good will Fergie built for himself at that club. Moyes might win a trophy or two...but it won't last. This is spot on. When Fergie was initially given time it was during a period where they'd had a couple of second place finishes in between several seasons outside the top ten and no league titles since the sixties. There wasn't the expectation for a manager to take them to a league title immediately (when I first started getting in to football in the mid eighties they weren't considered as big a team as Liverpool, Everton, Spurs or Arsenal. Hell I even remember West Ham looking more like contenders than them). Now they expect second as a minimum along with a trophy and Champions League semis. They need them to keep their share price up. If they went years without a trophy they would still keep the vast majority of their fan base but the money men would be going mental so they would be forced to act a lot sooner. I rate Moyes but the size of this step up makes it likely he's going to need time to grow into the role and I really don't think they have a team that's good enough to carry a manager (the manger has carried the team for a few years now for my money) until he does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 i suppose some people will look at the share price to see if the value is in ferguson the man, or man u the brand, but it won't be a massive concern for at least a season or two. and even then the share price isn't that much of a concern as the bulk of the value is owned by the glazers. obviously they want the sustained success they've seen to continue, which is why they've kept ferguson on as a director. they're not football men - they'll be the first to admit they don't understand the fine nuances of the game so they're keeping him on to help guide the club. and ferguson is sure to have approved the appointment of moyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 fergie will probably be relieved he's been spared the embarrassment of the share price going up! that's the worst thing that can happen to a ceo after resigning, which is in effect what he is. dropping around 4% is about right anyway. they've been on quite a good run so it's not that big a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 and while there might be a certain premium on the share price with fergie leaving, so much of the structure and stability at man u is in the huge amounts of sponsorship money they're now bringing in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Moyes confirmed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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