ChezGiven 0 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 If the club has taken legal action, i'd say the likelihood is that the story is bullshit. Unless they've hired an HR agency instead of a PR agency by mistake. If it was true, the PR would recommend leaving it alone. I'd say there has to be problems and issue behind the scenes but thats tbe in the circumstances. 'Relegation fears causing friction' is not quite the same story as 'friction causing relegation' which is the angle the Telegraph has tried to turn whatever source info they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13823 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 If the club has taken legal action, i'd say the likelihood is that the story is bullshit. Unless they've hired an HR agency instead of a PR agency by mistake. If it was true, the PR would recommend leaving it alone. I'd say there has to be problems and issue behind the scenes but thats tbe in the circumstances. 'Relegation fears causing friction' is not quite the same story as 'friction causing relegation' which is the angle the Telegraph has tried to turn whatever source info they have. Â Aye, an important difference to note. Also, Edwards is a right shit stirrer and constantly says things to "provoke discussion" i.e. unsettle people and wind fans up. This was probably just the last straw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 tbf, I misconstrued a tweet from the editor... Â Worse, they have engaged lawyers to demand a public apology 'forthwith' and withdrawal of Luke's article. I can help them here: no. Â https://twitter.com/gallaghereditor/status/329532330584711168 Â Assuming that meant legal action was being threatened. Reading the letter from the lawyers, it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mincepie 0 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 It's a journalists job. It is. So much for the transfer policy where they are supposed to be assessing the character of players. Who actually believed that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 The editor only has to prove there is friction behind the scenes to justify his story. Given the circumstances, its clear there should be friction. He can place any angle he wants on that and knows it. Him being strong in the face of this criticism does nothing to strengthen the case as he had to have gone through all this as a matter of course before publishing. Its his job to think through these exact scenarios for every story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mincepie 0 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 So you've ruled out the possibility that there's any substance to his article? If a player has told him what the situation is then he's 100% correct to print it. what a laugh it is to see the reactions of people who live in a fantasy world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I prefer sports journalists to report on what they see and hear,not what a `club insider' has told them.They have ample opportunities to ask the manager questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4720 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I prefer sports journalists to report on what they see and hear,not what a `club insider' has told them.They have ample opportunities to ask the manager questions. Â so you prefer them to report only what the club wants reported? Â everythings fine all the time woooo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 If a reporter has heard a player say something interesting,then name the player and tell us what he has said.I can then decide whether it is rhetoric or not.I listen to Pardew's post match press interviews and then decide if he's been watching the same game.The same with match reports from journalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I reckon you can say what you want to try and make yourselves feel better. Â It's highly unlikely that 3 seperate publications would run a complete cock and bull story. Â It was an obvious risk of our policy, now its happening - burying your head in the sand isnt the answer. I believe people are kidding themselves, because the alternative is (in my view) the truth - you accept that commercialism has ruined the top flight and that finally we are a victim of it. We will never get Ashley out for as long as he sees a personal benefit to himself. Â The problems lie much higher than the players or the manager, but we are powerless to do anything about it. So instead we'll pretend the media are liars everytime and everything is hunky dory. Â If you have a first team that comprises of the makeup of ours, cliques are going to happen. Maybe not 100% , but what I am 100% on is that you cannot buy 5 players all from outside the league, in January and expect them to turn the team around instantly. Â Next year, we'll see the quality of these signings, one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mincepie 0 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I prefer sports journalists to report on what they see and hear,not what a `club insider' has told them.They have ample opportunities to ask the manager questions. a sports journalist who is privy to information that others dont have access to is there to give the public that information. The alternative is to only print what the club chooses to tell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 He's on 5 Live at the moment. He says that some of his sources are three or four players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44430 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 The club have made themselves look ridiculous here. Not sure what the longer term implications are for Edwards, but he clearly has the confidence of some of the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7073 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 He's on 5 Live at the moment. He says that some of his sources are three or four players. Â So as was obviously going to happen, the club getting their knickers in a twist leads to the story becoming bigger and more believable. Â Fucking idiots, unless they actually wanted this excuse lined up before the drop. Either way this does us no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4703 Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 Â So as was obviously going to happen, the club getting their knickers in a twist leads to the story becoming bigger and more believable. Â Fucking idiots, unless they actually wanted this excuse lined up before the drop. Either way this does us no good. Â Allows Pardew to perfectly play the under siege card and divert attention away from him. Does nowt for the unity though as I imagine any cracks Anglo French relations will be canyons after Edwards reveals its 3 or 4 players. Â As for Edwards, silly boy. Putting fire out with petrol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Edwards will be loving every second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7073 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) Allows Pardew to perfectly play the under siege card and divert attention away from him. Â He may attempt to do so, but if there is discord in the dressing room then the buck stops with him. Edited May 2, 2013 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42108 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Which cord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10750 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Dat one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42108 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Dis one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10750 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 No, de other cord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42108 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Der's an udder one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6994 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 If it was Caulkin or Winter or someone I could understand the outrage, Edwards is so unashamedly anti NUFC I'm glad he's been banned however. Man United ban journalists all the time and it never gets a mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Yep, Taggart is banning journalists every week. Â More concerned that 3 or 4 players have deemed it acceptable to run to the press with such a story. Whose side are they on, and which players are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9737 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 If the club has taken legal action, i'd say the likelihood is that the story is bullshit. Unless they've hired an HR agency instead of a PR agency by mistake. If it was true, the PR would recommend leaving it alone. I'd say there has to be problems and issue behind the scenes but thats tbe in the circumstances. 'Relegation fears causing friction' is not quite the same story as 'friction causing relegation' which is the angle the Telegraph has tried to turn whatever source info they have. Unless it is the same PR agency and their "public relations exercises" they relied on in the Keegan case ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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