Thatcher Dead

[Meenzer 15561]

Good send off. Very respectful. Put the whole 'she divided a nation' canard into sharp perspective.

 

Despite the fact that Thacther was rather ludicrously portrayed by one person in here as being of the same ilk as Hitler and the Kims (this being the guy who's "not interested" in parliamentary politics and wasn't even around during the Thatcher era), none of the rather sad band of protestors were executed or even detained without charge and sent to a labour camp. They were able to make their sad little point in their sad little way, whilst the vast majority stayed respectfully silent, or simply responded with clapping.

 

That's been one of the most annoying arguments made by people over the last week and a half. Fuck off is someone's opinion automatically more valid simply because "they were there".

[The6Bells 0]

Been for a couple of "toasts" at a bar in Cheapside and the place is still crawling with stormtroopers and oxygen thieves mourning her. At least this should mark the end of it in practical terms.

 

It's the end of the idea that Thatcher was not respected by the vast majority. There were no notable protests at the funeral. And you could fit all the people who hated Thatcher so much they went that extra mile and spent 79p on the Ding Dong song into St James Park, with room to spare. Especially as no doubt a large portion of those will have been pathetic enough to download it multiple times.

[The6Bells 0]

That's been one of the most annoying arguments made by people over the last week and a half. Fuck off is someone's opinion automatically more valid simply because "they were there".

 

Quite. But what about someone who wasn't there, shows complete ignorance of historical facts, and compares Thatcher to Hitler or The Kims?

[Dr Gloom 21965]

Good send off. Very respectful. Put the whole 'she divided a nation' canard into sharp perspective.

 

 

of course she divided the nation you moron.

[The6Bells 0]

Less than ten thousand out of 65m in the place she sacrificed the rest to, to benefit.

 

What's your point? It doesn't matter if ten thousand or ten million turned out (source?), if only a tiny percentage of those that did were 'protesters', then quite clearly anyone who claims she 'divided the country' failed at maths.

[RedfernMag 0]

Despite the fact that Thacther was rather ludicrously portrayed by one person in here as being of the same ilk as Hitler and the Kims (this being the guy who's "not interested" in parliamentary politics and wasn't even around during the Thatcher era)

 

Thacther? too many G&Ts is it you tit

[RedfernMag 0]

Pipe down you. I'm talking to the guy who might at least know a bit about what he's talking about, not the sort of pillock that thinks Thatcher's era was akin to Hitler or your average North Korean divine leader.

 

any chance you can point out where I said that Thatcher was akin to Hitler or indeed any one from NK?

[The6Bells 0]

of course she divided the nation you moron.

 

But not as equally as normal English language usage would have that mean, so it would seem. A couple of hundred protesters at a funeral, a few hundred pissheads in Glasgow etc, and just 50k downloading a 'protest song'. And hardly any of them old enough to have even been one of the people she 'divided'.

[The6Bells 0]

any chance you can point out where I said that Thatcher was akin to Hitler or indeed any one from NK?

 

Actually it was Rayvin.

[NJS 4389]

 

What's your point? It doesn't matter if ten thousand or ten million turned out (source?), if only a tiny percentage of those that did were 'protesters', then quite clearly anyone who claims she 'divided the country' failed at maths.

 

Maybe those who hated her disappointed you by not lowering themselves to that level.

 

Opinion polls suggest she divided the nation so if you think its a minority then you're even more blind than we thought.

[Happy Face 29]

It's the end of the idea that Thatcher was not respected by the vast majority. There were no notable protests at the funeral. And you could fit all the people who hated Thatcher so much they went that extra mile and spent 79p on the Ding Dong song into St James Park, with room to spare. Especially as no doubt a large portion of those will have been pathetic enough to download it multiple times.

 

 

Aye, she's wildly popular, every other forum, Facebook, Twitter etc, they're all full of praise, just this corner of the internet that's warped.

[PaddockLad 17290]

But not as equally as normal English language usage would have that mean, so it would seem. A couple of hundred protesters at a funeral, a few hundred pissheads in Glasgow etc, and just 50k downloading a 'protest song'. And hardly any of them old enough to have even been one of the people she 'divided'.

 

You seem to be relying on the same media for proof of your "rather wild claims" that also predicted the possibilty of serious disorder in London today, which is rather fucking daft iyam

 

Fuck knows what you're trying to prove here. Are your contributions here a reflection of your off-line character?...

Edited April 17, 2013 by PaddockLad

[Dr Gloom 21965]

protesting at a funeral just isn't cricket is it? and it's not very british. that's the majority of those that hate thatcher didn't turn up. and the facebook download campaign, while amusing, was a bit childish for most to bother with.

 

you only have to open your eyes and read the social commentary out there though to see just how she divided us. she turned this country from a society that cared for each other into a nation of individuals in a race to the top. it's a path we haven't diverted from much through labour and tory governments since. and there are lots of people still unhappy at that.

[RedfernMag 0]

protesting at a funeral just isn't cricket is it? and it's not very british. that's the majority of those that hate thatcher didn't turn up. and the facebook download campaign, while amusing, was a bit childish for most to bother with.

 

you only have to open your eyes and read the social commentary out there though to see just how she divided us. she turned this country from a society that cared for each other into a nation of individuals in a race to the top. it's a path we haven't diverted from much through labour and tory governments since. and there are lots of people still unhappy at that.

 

Thatcher brought British Imperialism's tactic of divide and rule home.

 

The whole episode has at least brought things worth discussing/remembering into the public narrative, make the most of it

Edited April 17, 2013 by RedfernMag

[The6Bells 0]

At the end of the day, if you booed or shouted at the funeral today, you're basically saying the Queen is a cunt, as she was effectively chief mourner today. Still, luckily enough for those people, this isn't North Korea or the modern day Nazi Germany, and they won't get spirited away from their beds tonight, never to be seen again. Mores the pity.

[Meenzer 15561]

Mores the pity.

 

Enough said.

[The6Bells 0]

Fuck knows what you're trying to prove here.

 

That's what I thought about your point here.

[The6Bells 0]

Thatcher brought British Imperialism's tactic of divide and rule home.

 

Bit of a daft thing to say about a country whose political system has been since its inception, all about the government and the opposition. She didn't divide and rule, she just took the fact that the way you get into power here is by appealing to more people than the opposition, to its logical conclusion. This coalition is what happens when you get weak leaders who try to please all of the people all of the time.

[Dr Gloom 21965]

At the end of the day, if you booed or shouted at the funeral today, you're basically saying the Queen is a cunt, as she was effectively chief mourner today. Still, luckily enough for those people, this isn't North Korea or the modern day Nazi Germany, and they won't get spirited away from their beds tonight, never to be seen again. Mores the pity.

 

 

the queen is a cunt.

[RedfernMag 0]

Bit of a daft thing to say about a country whose political system has been since its inception, all about the government and the opposition. She didn't divide and rule, she just took the fact that the way you get into power here is by appealing to more people than the opposition, to its logical conclusion. This coalition is what happens when you get weak leaders who try to please all of the people all of the time.

 

I've read that 4 times and I can't make head nor tail what you're on about - did you go to a posh school?

[RedfernMag 0]

[The6Bells 0]

By the by, if anyone actually wants to know what it was actually like to live under a European right wing nationalist dictator in modern times, check out General Franco. Not 5 years before your dads were (allegedly) crying into their cornflakes about how they'd been given the shittty end of the stick by a 'fascist dictator' who 'divided a nation', an actual right wing fascist dictator was ending his 4th decade of being in power, having defeated the left in a civil war and took the concept of self interest at both home and abroad to epic levels. This is why, whether you like it or not, Thatcher is hailed as one of the great democratic leaders of modern times, while Franco is remembered simply as a fascist prick.

[NJS 4389]

 

 

the queen is a cunt.

 

I thought that was a bit strange - needed an "and?...." response.

 

Bloke is obviously an establishment stooge.

[RedfernMag 0]

the queen is a cunt.

 

[The6Bells 0]

I've read that 4 times and I can't make head nor tail what you're on about - did you go to a posh school?

 

Is teaching kids about how Westminster works posh to you?