Thatcher Dead

[Park Life 71]

The only English people who give a fuck about Northern Ireland are right wing twats and ex-squaddies, you happen to be both. Now who could you be?

 

Luther Vandross I reckons.

[PaddockLad 17290]

Its not Leazes, its that well known fuckin cockmonkey Ashleys skid mark....he'd know where a bunch of slightly left leaning mags would be congregating at this time...

[The6Bells 0]

The only English people who give a fuck about Northern Ireland are right wing twats and ex-squaddies, you happen to be both. Now who could you be?

 

Fuck me. If you really believe what you just wrote, you must be a very very warped individual. Right wing I may be (depending on how relevant you think Old Labour is any more in the current spectrum), but I can guarantee I've never worn a beret in my life, military or otherwise (not even for France day at SJP).

[Tom 14013]

LOL. So, it's not the fact that the govt. owes you a job, it's that it owes you an interesting job. Brilliant.

 

Anyways, I find it hilarous that it sounds like at least two people on here work in the factory Thatcher brought to the region. Anymore want to fess up to being just a little bit hypocritical about all this 'she tuk urr jubs' nonsense?

 

Do they owe us a living? Of course they fucking do.

[The6Bells 0]

Do they owe us a living? Of course they fucking do.

 

Then you're the bloke who got Thatcher elected then. Congratulations. Here's to another 30 years of Britain being free of socialism if the youth of today still think like this.

Edited April 9, 2013 by The6Bells

[Park Life 71]

Fuck me. If you really believe what you just wrote, you must be a very very warped individual. Right wing I may be (depending on how relevant you think Old Labour is any more in the current spectrum), but I can guarantee I've never worn a beret in my life, military or otherwise (not even for France day at SJP).

 

Aren't you the bloke that said your identity was a state secret or something?

[Tom 14013]

It's a song by Crass - well covered by Jeffrey Lewis.

[trophyshy 7083]

LOL. So, it's not the fact that the govt. owes you a job, it's that it owes you an interesting job. Brilliant.

 

Anyways, I find it hilarous that it sounds like at least two people on here work in the factory Thatcher brought to the region. Anymore want to fess up to being just a little bit hypocritical about all this 'she tuk urr jubs' nonsense?

 

Use of humour to refute your absurd suggestion, but as a Thatcherite you probably think that's an extraneous affectation.

[The6Bells 0]

Use of humour to refute your absurd suggestion, but as a Thatcherite you probably think that's an extraneous affectation.

 

I though I was refuting you?

[The6Bells 0]

Aren't you the bloke that said your identity was a state secret or something?

 

I don't think so. Why would James Bond be pissing around on a Toon forum anyway?

[The6Bells 0]

Here's a few gems from South Africa for the idiots who condemn Thatcher as a supporter of appartheid just because she didn't impose sanctions, and called the ANC (who were doing all sorts of terrorist shit at the time) a terrorist organization.

 

The former British ambassador to South Africa, appointed by Thatcher, writes in a new book that “there was never any doubt about her opposition to apartheid,” but the question was how best to achieve change. It seemed to her that the worst approach was to further isolate South Africa with sanctions, as isolation contributed to a siege mentality on the part of Afrikaners. She reacted with genuine indignation to any suggestion of racism".

 

Former South African President FW de Klerk, the country’s last white leader and a joint Nobel peace prize winner with Mandela, has praised Thatcher’s role in supporting South Africa’s constitutional transformation from white rule. “Although she was always a steadfast critic of apartheid, she had a much better grasp of the complexities and geo-strategic realities of South Africa than many of her contemporaries"

 

Mangosuthu Buthelezi, leader of the Inkatha Freedom Party, a rival of the ANC, also posthumously praised his “dear friend” Thatcher.

“She was a voice of reason during apartheid and listened attentively to my plea against sanctions and economic disinvestment, which we both recognized would hurt the poorest of our people the most,”

 

Obviously Mandela hasn't said anything, and oddly, Zuma didn't say anything either way. Another ANC spokesperson simply condemns her for not isolating apartheid, although he doesn't say whether he wanted her to apply sanctions specifically.

[Rayvin 5227]

Just to take this topic away from this ongoing and now entirely exhausted "debate", I always find myself frustrated that public figures such as Thatcher and the Royals are celebrated quite so much in death anyway. Regardless of what she has or hasn't done, why is her death any more relevant than anyone else's? Admittedly this point is not quite so true for Thatcher, as she accomplished much more than the Royal family manage to, but even so. It's like when Diana died - I know it's taboo, but I just did not fucking get the fuss about that.

 

They're just people. Pretty crap ones at that, spurred on by personal ambition and inherited power.

 

I had similar feelings about that ridiculous Royal wedding, although at least we got a bank holiday out of that.

[Howmanheyman 33282]

I don't work in Nissan by the way. Although I nearly had to.

 

Glad you found the idea hilarious though.

Edited April 9, 2013 by Howmanheyman

[The6Bells 0]

Regardless of what she has or hasn't done, why is her death any more relevant than anyone else's?

 

If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit!

[Rayvin 5227]

If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit!

 

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I think we're done here.

[Renton 21643]

It's a song by Crass - well covered by Jeffrey Lewis.

 

Didn't Morrissey decree it too?

 

Don't know who this 6bells is since being told it's not CabayeAye, but he has to be the most boring twat we've had on here. At least with RossGurko, Leazes, and CT there was some entertainment in the political threads. This guy just seems obsessed and bitter without any redeeming qualities. How much time is he spending posting this tedious shit? Is anyone reading the longer posts?

[Park Life 71]

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I think we're done here.

 

[The6Bells 0]

I don't work in Nissan by the way. Although I nearly had to.

 

Glad you found the idea hilarious though.

 

Holy crap. So, you not only had the chance to work in a modern car factory, with all the benefits of not having to fear of dying in an underground fire or being buried alive or mangled into a conveyor, you also had other job offers as well? If you've got it bad, I'd hate to see someone who was really down on their luck due to Thatcher's reforms.

 

I'll tell you a funny story though. I've never worked in Nissan, but I did work in a large manufacturing factory at one time. It was quite hilarious to see just what unions could acheive, even with modern day laws. Even though most breakdowns of the various plant required both mechanical and electrical attention, the mechanics were all work to rule unionised pricks, who wouldn't lift a spanner a second after their mandatory tea break time. Consequently, that department was basically permanently staffed with fat balding men in their 50s, who only ever talked about their retirement plans. The electricians however, being a relatively new introduction that came in after the worst excesses of trades unionism, they were all contracted individually and expected to work as needed, and were left to manage their own non-emergency work load to suit their own (legislatively backed) rest periods. Consequently, that department were staffed with a variety of old hands plus bright, young, intelligent people, many of whom managed to work their way up the ladder, or moved on to other companies for better pay. The mechanics hated the electricians, the electricians hated the mechanics. The management didn't bother fixing isuch an idiotic situation however, because, well, even in this day and age, who wants to deal with the sort of cunt who thinks his right to strike is the first, last, and only thing that matters. This all happened in a factory where the plant operators were under real pressure to keep the work flowing, because they knew that for a delay of X minutes, it cost Y pounds, and which inevitably had a knock on effect on their morale whenever a contract was lost or a shift was cut (or transferred to other plants in more enlightened countries) for productivity reasons. I do remember that the resident union scumbag tried to get me to fork over some of my weekly wage packet to help sustain his fat mates cushy number and ensure I was never 'exploited' by the company, but seeing as how I was one of the electricians and knew the company and their record quite well, I told him to go fuck himself. I moved on many years ago, but I can guarantee if the factory is still in business, the mechanics will still be there drinking there tea and screwing everyone else. And to think, there are still some assholes out there who think that closed shops were a good thing or that unions have a role in a modern economy. Dinosaurs the lot of em. I mean for fucks sake, being a fitter is supposed to be a strenous job, right? Not as hard as mining, but hard enough. Yet funnily enough, there wasn't a single one of those cunts that weighed less than 17 stone. Hopefully they all died of heart attacks long before they picked up their (very generous) pension packages.

[Park Life 71]

Didn't Morrissey decree it too?

 

Don't know who this 6bells is since being told it's not CabayeAye, but he has to be the most boring twat we've had on here. At least with RossGurko, Leazes, and CT there was some entertainment in the political threads. This guy just seems obsessed and bitter without any redeeming qualities. How much time is he spending posting this tedious shit? Is anyone reading the longer posts?

 

It's like meeting one of those blokes who's read one book.

[Meenzer 15561]

It's like meeting one of those blokes who's read one book.

 

Definitely not CT then.

[Park Life 71]

Definitely not CT then.

 

Edited April 9, 2013 by Park Life

[The6Bells 0]

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I think we're done here.

 

Just trying to point out in a humerous way how the statement made no sense. You want to dismiss the person's acheivements, yet then questoin why their death is received differently to the average joe.

[Meenzer 15561]

 

While you're here sir, check out the Hamburg thread, Gloomy wants your advice on poodles.

[Kid Dynamite 7034]

No2 in the charts atm this is shaping up to be the best Sunday ever!

[The6Bells 0]

obsessed and bitter without any redeeming qualities.

 

Obviously they're obsessed and bitter, but are there any redeeming qualities in all the beaten socialists that have been hating on Thatcher yesterday and today? Me, what have I got to be bitter about? She helped people like me, but then again, I do have a sense of personal responsibilty and was willing to make my own way in the world without signing up to a poxy union or crying about how nobody had kept a steel mill open so I could get a job in it. I rather liked the fact that once I got a job, my taxes weren't being thrown away subsidising dying industries just to keep lazy socialists in beer and fags.