Thatcher Dead

[Monkeys Fist 42484]

Fuck it, I'm getting it.

[trophyshy 7083]

Fuck it, I'm getting it.

 

Took yer fucking time!

[PaddockLad 17290]

[PaddockLad 17290]

I wonder how the police will try to keep the peace on the streets as she gets her last moment in the spotlight?....there will have to be a copper every 5 yards. They'll probably intern any known trouble makers this weekend for 7 days "just in case"

[trophyshy 7083]

11th

[Park Life 71]

Yeah bring down capitalism by buying something from itunes.

[ewerk 30677]

I think you may have misunderstood the aim.

[Andrew 4774]

I think you may have misunderstood the aim.

 

like the people who pointed out that killing in the name of made someone a load of money when it got to christmas number one

[PaddockLad 17290]

like the people who pointed out that killing in the name of made someone a load of money when it got to christmas number one

 

You got a new job yet mate?....if not, blame Thatcher

[Monkeys Fist 42484]

 

 

Took yer fucking time!

Not many retail opportunitys on this roof

[Andrew 4774]

You got a new job yet mate?....if not, blame Thatcher

 

I don't quite blame her, I blame her ism though.

 

literally the first day of this governments office a tax break that would have created more than 4000 jobs in my industry was scrapped.

[PaddockLad 17290]

I don't quite blame her, I blame her ism though.

 

literally the first day of this governments office a tax break that would have created more than 4000 jobs in my industry was scrapped.

 

Aye, as has been said in many places she may be dead but Thatcherism is likely to always be with us. Thats a shame about the tax break for you, hows the job hunting going?.

[Andrew 4774]

not too bad at the moment, waiting on a call back for an interview at the tail end of last week that I really really want.

[PaddockLad 17290]

Good luck Andy

[Kid Dynamite 7034]

10th now. Just bought it

[The6Bells 0]

"Thatcher was essentially a mouthpiece for powerful bankers and industrialists who were determined to defeat socialism or trends towards it within western economies and who abhorred any restrictions on their activities, such as capital controls. They and their ‘think tanks’ were determined to shatter the post-war Keynesian consensus based on a robust welfare state and government intervention in the economy to help secure full employment.

 

Any notions of ‘fairness’ and the perceived benefits to be derived from the welfare state were to be substituted for positive notions about the free market and individual responsibility in order to justify the real intention of shifting the balance of power towards elite interests.

Thatcher was an important cog in the wheel because of her presentation skills. Politics and politicians in advanced capitalism serve as the PR arm of the military-financial-industrial complex and Thatcher performed her role well."

 

Bonkers bonkers bonkers. Thatcher was the last Prime Minister to tell it to you straight. She said what she meant, and you knew where you stood. It is too funny to think that in the era of politicians being accused of spin and of being nothing but professional mouthpieces who quite literally take a degree in how to not answer a question or to tell you nothing about what they beleive or will do, even while talking directly to your face, it is Thatcher who you accuse of being a PR front. You're an idiot. Thatcher was a Grocer's daughter who was elected leader of the Tories by the rank and file MPs, quite to the surprise of the establishment figures in the upper echelon positions of the party, with all the links to industry and the elite they represented. You're a glue sniffing buffoon if you really beleive this stuff. The bankers liked Thatcher because she freed them form dinosaur regulations whose real effects cannot even begin to be conveyed by simply calling them 'capital controls'.

[The6Bells 0]

decimating manufacturing in this country.

 

From such small acorns, such big lies are made. One of the haters earlier posted a story in here with a very informative graph, which showed that rather than "decimating" the manufacturing industry and thus 'ripping the heart out of the economy', all she did was continue a rather steady trend of retraction that had been the economic reality in Britain since at least 1970. That's an ENITRE DECADE before she even came to power!. And by that time, manufacturing was already only something like 20% of GDP. In her time it reduced by a further 5% or thereabouts. Therefore, anyone who claims she destroyed the ecomomy by ripping out (loss making) manufacturing inustries, is talking complete and total rubbish. They also seem to conveniently forget that it was the Tories who brought Nissan to Sunderland. Destroying manufacturing my arse.

[CleeToonFan 1]

6Bells practicing for his AS Level exam it seems.

[NJS 4389]

 

Bonkers bonkers bonkers. Thatcher was the last Prime Minister to tell it to you straight. She said what she meant, and you knew where you stood. It is too funny to think that in the era of politicians being accused of spin and of being nothing but professional mouthpieces who quite literally take a degree in how to not answer a question or to tell you nothing about what they beleive or will do, even while talking directly to your face, it is Thatcher who you accuse of being a PR front. You're an idiot. Thatcher was a Grocer's daughter who was elected leader of the Tories by the rank and file MPs, quite to the surprise of the establishment figures in the upper echelon positions of the party, with all the links to industry and the elite they represented. You're a glue sniffing buffoon if you really beleive this stuff. The bankers liked Thatcher because she freed them form dinosaur regulations whose real effects cannot even begin to be conveyed by simply calling them 'capital controls'.

 

How did that banking deregulation work out?

[The6Bells 0]

Odd to think that she let Sands & co die rather than give them prisoner of war status.....now western governments insist that terrorist suspects must be classified as the enemy in a war that allows them to be imprisoned without charge indefinitely.

 

As hilarious as it is to imagine what the IRA would have thought if Bobby Sands had been reclassified from a criminal prisoner to a jump suited Guantanamo Bay inmate, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick of that issue entirely.

[The6Bells 0]

How did that banking deregulation work out?

 

Well, I think we all know what effect it has had on Britain, end yet nobody is proposing any major changes to the idea of free market banking. But I think it would be funnier for you to perhaps outline how the more regulated countries have weathered the storm. Let's put aside the obvious no brainers like Cuba. Let's have a discussion about what fun it is to live in, say, somewhere like Hungary? How did their antiquated banking system protect their citizens from the effects of the global financial crisis?

[Happy Face 29]

 

As hilarious as it is to imagine what the IRA would have thought if Bobby Sands had been reclassified from a criminal prisoner to a jump suited Guantanamo Bay inmate, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick of that issue entirely.

 

You seem to find a lot of grave situations "hilarious".

[PaddockLad 17290]

Well, I think we all know what effect it has had on Britain, end yet nobody is proposing any major changes to the idea of free market banking. But I think it would be funnier for you to perhaps outline how the more regulated countries have weathered the storm. Let's put aside the obvious no brainers like Cuba. Let's have a discussion about what fun it is to live in, say, somewhere like Hungary? How did their antiquated banking system protect their citizens from the effects of the global financial crisis?

 

Wheres the new BoE guvnor from again?....

[The6Bells 0]

Thatcher was an ideologue

 

An oft quoted lie. History shows that she was pragmatic when necessary. Certainly more so than anyone who opposed her at the time, or any of these so called post war consensus leaders (unless you define making policy one year and ripping it up the next as pragmatic). She's only seen as an ideologue because she pushed it through, unlike other less sucessful political ideologies of any era.

 

None of her policies produced long term social benefits for short term financial loss imo but i'm willing to listen to any examples you might have?

 

Privatisation was a short term loss. Nobody had any idea what money that would generate, whether it would cover the assetts even. Not at first. As for long term social benefits, I supposed you've never met anyone with a pension plan which is stuffed full of stocks in companies that wouldn't ever have existed if it weren't for Thatcher's 'ideloogy' of privatising the 'crown jewels' of the nation (a bunch of sewer pipes and phone wires!

 

[The6Bells 0]

You seem to find a lot of grave situations "hilarious".

 

The self inflicted death of a terrorist doesn't strike me as a grave situation. Now, the oft forgotten death of 5 innocent people due to the attempted assssination by the IRA of Maggie when the subject of Sands comes up, now that's grave.