Thatcher Dead

[Park Life 71]

Former Labour prime minister Tony Blair called the ex-PM a "towering political figure" who exercised a huge influence over Britain and the world.

 

"Very few leaders get to change not only the political landscape of their country but of the world. Margaret was such a leader. Her global impact was vast," he said.

 

He added: "As a person she was kind and generous spirited and was always immensely supportive to me as Prime Minister although we came from opposite sides of politics.

 

He was a thatcherite in all but name, now conning and scamming his way around the world for money. His offices in Grovesnor sq cost 500,000 £ a year rent. If she was sponsored by Marlboro (she was) then he's been sponsored by the million men women and children who died in the illegal Iraq war (Q8 fund his company as do the EU and UN) He takes money from oil companies (no suprise there) and any cunt with an axe to grind who can write him big cheques. A total disgrace of a human being. Should be in prison.

 

http://www.telegraph...is-fortune.html

 

Traitor cunt.

 

"Mr Blair is paid in the region of £3 million a year to advise both JP Morgan, the US investment bank, and also Zurich International, the global insurer based in Switzerland. On top of that he runs his own consultancy firm - Tony Blair Associates - which advises the oil and gas rich governments of Kuwait and Kazakhstan. "

 

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[The6Bells 0]

What we need to get back to is a mixed economy, some things are better nationalised - trains and water and so on...And other things are better run privately for profit. We have great things in the UK that have nothing to do with Thatcher, infact inspite of her and the neo-liberal scorched earth policy her and the traitor class manged to lay on us. These policies were one moment the mad creations of right wing think tanks (paid for by millionaires and big business) and the next minute Govt. policy...The fight goes on. We will win. Historically the people have always won. ALWAYS.

 

East Coast Trains is owned by the government. As is all of the track. Makes no difference on any measure that's ever been tried by either the unions or impartial observers. In state hands the railways wouldn't even benefit from being able to place a large train order with a British based company to create employment because of....you guessed it.....those EU socialist bastards and their free market rules. You eejit.

[The6Bells 0]

The fact that Tony Blair carried on Thatcherism was my basic point. The lefties lost, which is why all they have left in their lives is to is to celebrate in this crass manner on this one day. Suck it up, losers! Maggie died today at 87 years of age, but in comparison, socialism has never even got past adolescence......and looks like it never will! Huzzah.

[Monkeys Fist 42481]

 

 

The implicatino being I missed the point? How so? Do you know much about the political history of the railways Mr Meenzer?

Double Whoosh

[Park Life 71]

East Coast Trains is owned by the government. As is all of the track. Makes no difference on any measure that's ever been tried by either the unions or impartial observers. In state hands the railways wouldn't even benefit from being able to place a large train order with a British based company to create employment because of....you guessed it.....those EU socialist bastards and their free market rules. You eejit.

 

Getting silly now. Work out what the EU is first.

[The6Bells 0]

I speak of socialism in Britain of course. It lived to maturiy in other lands, but I think we all know how well that turned out in the end.

[Park Life 71]

The fact that Tony Blair carried on Thatcherism was my basic point. The lefties lost, which is why all they have left in their lives is to is to celebrate in this crass manner on this one day. Suck it up, losers! Maggie died today at 87 years of age, but in comparison, socialism has never even got past adolescence......and looks like it never will! Huzzah.

 

Neo liberalism ended in 2008.

[NJS 4389]

The fact that Tony Blair carried on Thatcherism was my basic point. The lefties lost, which is why all they have left in their lives is to is to celebrate in this crass manner on this one day. Suck it up, losers! Maggie died today at 87 years of age, but in comparison, socialism has never even got past adolescence......and looks like it never will! Huzzah.

 

Yes and the country we have now is exactly what you and her wished for.

 

Demonised poor with slave labour wages and no rights, global tax evaders taking the piss and a huge increase in inequality - what a victory.

[The6Bells 0]

Work out what the EU is first.

 

What it is In reality, or what it is in your chemical addled brain? I work with EU regulations and read EU materials on an almost daily basis, as well as having spent a long time researching its history and mechanics so as to better do that. So how about you, fruit loops? Where do you get your knowledge about the EU? Off the back of a cereal packet? Or worse, from the Daily Mirror?

[NJS 4389]

I speak of socialism in Britain of course. It lived to maturiy in other lands, but I think we all know how well that turned out in the end.

 

So did socialism or capitalism cause the global financial crisis?

[Park Life 71]

I speak of socialism in Britain of course. It lived to maturiy in other lands, but I think we all know how well that turned out in the end.

 

Don't think capitalism ever existed did it? I mean if you're counting america and it's wildly protectionist and subsidised industry as capitalist?????? Look up GATT you dope.

[Park Life 71]

What it is In reality, or what it is in your chemical addled brain? I work with EU regulations and read EU materials on an almost daily basis, as well as having spent a long time researching its history and mechanics so as to better do that. So how about you, fruit loops? Where do you get your knowledge about the EU? Off the back of a cereal packet? Or worse, from the Daily Mirror?

 

What is it then?

[The6Bells 0]

Yes and the country we have now is exactly what you and her wished for.

 

Demonised poor with slave labour wages and no rights, global tax evaders taking the piss and a huge increase in inequality - what a victory.

 

Slave wages? No rights? Inequality? Do me a favour. Either you've never travelled beyond these shores or you just don't understand what these words actually mean. Although I suppose this matches with the world view of someone who can compare Maggie to Pol Pot.

[Christmas Tree 4729]

Paxman fronting Newsnight tonight. Wonder how the big boys will cover it.

[NJS 4389]

Slave wages? No rights? Inequality? Do me a favour. Either you've never travelled beyond these shores or you just don't understand what these words actually mean. Although I suppose this matches with the world view of someone who can compare Maggie to Pol Pot.

 

Compared to the "bad old days" of the 70s all three of those are now acceptable. I know about absolute poverty but I also know how rich the wealthy are in this country and the gap has widened enormously.

[Tom 14013]

The whole Thatcher thing is a myth created by the dominant right wing media at the time. Most of it is total bollocks...

 

It's true that inflation hit 27 per cent in 1975, but this was largely a consequence of the Yom Kippur War oil price shock, which saw oil prices quadruple, and not a sign that the mixed economy model had collapsed.

 

By 1978, the British economy was rapidly improving. Inflation was down to single figures and unemployment was falling too. Productivity was rising, including in the nationalised industries. North sea oil revenues were starting to transform the balance of payments, which showed a surplus of £109m in 1977. And in December 1978 Britain recorded a massive trade surplus of £246m.

 

Britain was a contented society that had a healthy work-life balance

During 1978, Britain's standard of living rose by 6.4 per cent to reach its highest ever level: so much for the 'Sick Man of Europe'.

 

"The outlook for Britain is better than at any time in the postwar years," was the verdict, not of a Labour party propagandist, but of Chase Manhattan bank's chief European economist, Geoffrey Maynard.

Bernard Nossiter, a Washington Post journalist, argued in his 1978 book Britain- the Future that Works, that Britain, unlike the US, had created a contented society that had managed to get the balance right between work, leisure and remuneration. Far from having had enough of Labour and the post-war consensus, opinion polls show that the party would have won a General Election, had Prime Minister James Callaghan called one, as expected, for October 1978.

 

The so-called 'Winter of Discontent' of 1979 - which ushered in Thatcherism - is also shrouded in myth. James Callaghan never said 'Crisis, what crisis' - that was an invention of The Sun. The strikes themselves only lasted for a comparatively short period and were largely over by February 1979."

 

Now fuck off you bat!!!

 

I would like to see some of our older posters such as CT form a riposte to this balanced post.

 

Us younguns could really learn something.

[Park Life 71]

Compared to the "bad old days" of the 70s all three of those are now acceptable. I know about absolute poverty but I also know how rich the wealthy are in this country and the gap has widened enormously.

 

The poster boy for capitalism america a rogue state where wages in real terms are the same as they were in the 70's. Capitalism...ha ha ha... 40% on foodstamps or other state aid, hundredes of thousands living on the street and a debt running at 13 trillion. CAPITALISM AT ITS BEST.

Seriously fuck off. It's not even a debate. We're now at the finite limits of wealth concentrated at the center and capitalism has no ans on how to get it back out. NONE. Unless we start beheading folk like. I'm all for that.

Edited April 8, 2013 by Park Life

[The6Bells 0]

So did socialism or capitalism cause the global financial crisis?

 

That's a trick question of course. A global financial crisis is impossible when the only global trade is in little red books, AK47s, tractors and trabants.

 

The global financial crises had its roots in socialist ideologies (or at least aspirations) more than people like you would ever be likely to concede though, because to do so would shatter your view of what people are and are not entitled to just because they were born (and things which ironically cannot be provided to them by socialist economies, as history has proven time and time and time again).

 

Of course, the hilarious thing about this sort of view is, the worst thing that the global financial crisis has cause is long queues for bread and soup. So even at its worst, capitalism manages to reach a level that was, your naive day dreams aside, simply daily grinding reality for the proles in many socialist paradises. This is the reality. Live it. Learn from it. Deal with it.

[Park Life 71]

That's a trick question of course. A global financial crisis is impossible when the only global trade is in little red books, AK47s, tractors and trabants.

 

The global financial crises had its roots in socialist ideologies (or at least aspirations) more than people like you would ever be likely to concede though, because to do so would shatter your view of what people are and are not entitled to just because they were born (and things which ironically cannot be provided to them by socialist economies, as history has proven time and time and time again).

 

Of course, the hilarious thing about this sort of view is, the worst thing that the global financial crisis has cause is long queues for bread and soup. So even at its worst, capitalism manages to reach a level that was, your naive day dreams aside, simply daily grinding reality for the proles in many socialist paradises. This is the reality. Live it. Learn from it. Deal with it.

 

Edited April 8, 2013 by Park Life

[The6Bells 0]

The poster boy for capitalism america a rogue state where wages in real terms are the same as they were in the 70's. Capitalism...ha ha ha... 40% on foodstamps or other state aid, hundredes of thousands living on the street and a debt running at 13 trillion. CAPITALISM AT ITS BEST.

Seriously fuck off. It's not even a debate. We're now at the finite limits of wealth concentrated at the center and capitalism has no ans on how to get it back out. NONE. Unless we start beheading folk like. I'm all for that.

 

Capitalism has no poster boy. It has no little red books or demigogues. To even make that claim shows a fundemental lack of understanding of the concept.

[NJS 4389]

That's a trick question of course. A global financial crisis is impossible when the only global trade is in little red books, AK47s, tractors and trabants.

 

The global financial crises had its roots in socialist ideologies (or at least aspirations) more than people like you would ever be likely to concede though, because to do so would shatter your view of what people are and are not entitled to just because they were born (and things which ironically cannot be provided to them by socialist economies, as history has proven time and time and time again).

 

Of course, the hilarious thing about this sort of view is, the worst thing that the global financial crisis has cause is long queues for bread and soup. So even at its worst, capitalism manages to reach a level that was, your naive day dreams aside, simply daily grinding reality for the proles in many socialist paradises. This is the reality. Live it. Learn from it. Deal with it.

 

Genuine frontier gibberish - please try again.

[The6Bells 0]

The global financial crisis is staged. You know that right?

 

Aye. It was orchestrated by the Lizard people. I for one welcome our new lizard over-lords. Lizards beats socialists anyday.

[Christmas Tree 4729]

I would like to see some of our older posters such as CT form a riposte to this balanced post.

 

Us younguns could really learn something.

 

No you wouldnt.

 

First of all its Parky

 

Secondly, Its parky

 

Everyone right or left now looks back and realises Britain was fucked pre Thatcher. Whatever random quotes Parky throws your way, the unions wrecked havoc and could not see that we needed to change if we had any chance of competing in the big wide world.

 

They sat like King Canut as the forces of cheap third world labour drifted over their heads. They were interested in that years pay settlement and not 2, 5, 10 years down the line.

 

The whole country was fucked off with the the Labour government and the unions grip in 1979 which is why they were kicked out of power, never to return for 18 years. (And even when they did return it was Tory Labour).

[Park Life 71]

Capitalism has no poster boy. It has no little red books or demigogues. To even make that claim shows a fundemental lack of understanding of the concept.

 

It has no frontiers you should have said.

 

Money chases profit and industry chases cheap labour...Countries are left behind. Look up Gatt. Your masters have been having a laugh with you as they did Thatcher (a plaything).

[Park Life 71]

Aye. It was orchestrated by the Lizard people. I for one welcome our new lizard over-lords. Lizards beats socialists anyday.

 

Well this is about the 7th time they've done it. Look up boom and bust. Look up bubbles. Look up anything......FFS! :lolk:

 

Here I'll tell you what's coming....POST CAPITALISM. You see how they prepare us for it? You don't. Cause you're just a meme, a repetition, a stage managed gargoyle, a victim of predictive programming ( OH the people on the telly look real!!!!!!!!)

Edited April 8, 2013 by Park Life