David Kelly 1244 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I said he doesn't play as a winger any more which I stand by. At best he plays as a wide defensive minded midfielder, that's not the same as a winger. And I never said that Obertan wasn't a winger. Being shite is enough of a reason to discount him so would it not have been enough if I labeled Jonas the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 either way, it's pretty obvious that we're short of quality out wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 ... and depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Have we pulled out of the Gomis deal over £0.5m? It would appear so. Ashley prefers deadline a deadline day farce, placing the beginning of the season in jeopardy. Is there a single person on this board who thinks we will be ready to face Manchester City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15518 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 It would appear so. Ashley prefers deadline a deadline day farce, placing the beginning of the season in jeopardy. Is there a single person on this board who thinks we will be ready to face Manchester City? Wouldn't surprise me if we've effectively already written that one off and are treating the 24th as the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17245 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I said he doesn't play as a winger any more which I stand by. At best he plays as a wide defensive minded midfielder, that's not the same as a winger. And I never said that Obertan wasn't a winger. Being shite is enough of a reason to discount him so would it not have been enough if I labeled Jonas the same? Aahh!...a wingback??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Mental as it may be, I'm putting my faith in Adam Campbell , if he can just break through and be the next Rooney for us, we will avoid relegation. If, without significant signings we survive this, it will be a miracle. It beggars belief that anyone thinks we're going to sign anyone decent , given that we NEVER have re-invested, it's all just been small fractions of previous sales. I might have whinged all summer, but once it kicks off I'll go into stupidly optimistic mode again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Aahh!...a wingback??!! Nah that's something else entirely. Basically jonas plays like a fullback but from midfield and santon plays like a winger but from defence I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Ah but in which formation? 7-5,22.333333333 ? 4-4-4 or 4-3-3 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17245 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Nah that's something else entirely. Basically jonas plays like a fullback but from midfield and santon plays like a winger but from defence I think... As I've said before, Stuart Pearce for Forest did both without breaking sweat, so did John Beresford for us. Both were fullbacks. But lets not open that can of worms again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Wouldn't surprise me if we've effectively already written that one off and are treating the 24th as the start of the season. I understand that Ashley is a businessman and losing a million could potentially cost a million on the next deal and so on but how much is to be lost languishing at the bottom end of the table continuosly. It's false economy, puts fans off attending puts players off joining and costs us in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1244 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Wouldn't surprise me if we've effectively already written that one off and are treating the 24th as the start of the season.I know I have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1244 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 As I've said before, Stuart Pearce for Forest did both without breaking sweat, so did John Beresford for us. Both were fullbacks. But lets not open that can of worms again... Unfortunately Santon isn't as good as either of those players you mention. Also I don't know about Pearce at Forest but Bez had the likes of Sellars and Ginola ahead of him when he was here. Both of which were much greater attacking threats than Jonas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 'wingbacks' is this season's 'hugo viana - defensive midflelder' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 You can argue the intricacies all you want. Jonas is a winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 except when he plays inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 or at full back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 cisse is mainly a striker except when shitdrew plays him right wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1244 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 You can argue the intricacies all you want. Jonas is a wingerIt's not intricacies at all. He doesn't play in that position anymore. Either that's Pardews choice or it's him adjusting his game for one reason or another. If it's Pardews then he must have no faith in him there so that still comes back to fact that we need a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 or at full back Which is hardly ever. Ba played as outside right. He's still a striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Get French Football @GFN_France 2mConfirmed: West Ham and Lille have agreed a fee (€3.5m) for Kalou. Now for the player to decide (reports reliable @mohamedbouhafsi) #WHUFC We should be in ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13863 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 as if people think we're not going to keep dragging out transfers we have no intention of completing until September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 We have cisse gouffran ameobi and campbell. I doubt we're in the market for more thanks one striker sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 We have cisse gouffran ameobi and campbell. I doubt we're in the market for more thanks one striker sadly. fancy betting on at least one striker in before the window closes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 open to anyone interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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